[jfuller5]

Anyone know if off road option Gryphon is used for with dpf and w/o dpf. Or does standard model have programs for both? What is the difference in these 2 models? I am not sure I want to delete dpf but may in the future. Thanks

[jasfaa]

Edge offers one so you should be able to get one from Bill. I am surprised no one has responded.

[John Anderson]

Yes. PHP has both dpf and no dpf offroad tunes available.

[jfuller5]

Thanks John, My question is does the off road programer come with a dpf tune and a non dpf tune so you could use it until you remove filter. Or maybe the basic programmer can do this . I basically am looking for better mpg and like everybody more power never hurts.

[jfuller5]

What is the difference between the 2 programmers , the PHP website doesn't say anything about what is the difference. The site actually shows the performance dyno stats as being the same. Anybody using these and what do you think? Jim

[jasfaa]

This is stated in another post but the Gryphon has higher HP/Torque ratings and they offer custom tunes in case you want to change things like injectors, CAI, turbos etc. down the road.

[Power Hungry]

Only the Off-Road version has the DPF Delete capability. It also has a higher output Level 4 Program which produces about 190 HP, vs. the 160 of the standard version.

[jfuller5]

Thanks for the info Bill. So the off road version is with or w/o dpf does it come with ability to do both or does it need to be upgraded to go to delete, also can it be change back. which programmer would you guys reccomend for daily driver that carrys a 3000 lb camper while towing a 1000 lb boat?