View Full Version : Curious about programmer????
tdnp
Thu, April 30th, 2009, 10:18 AM
I am curious, I have a 95 psd and would like to add a programmer.
What is availiable, Griffin and the phenoix? Pros and cons/diffrences for each?
Are they programmers that need mounted and so they come with a pod?
what is the cost?
cleatus12r
Thu, April 30th, 2009, 06:55 PM
I am curious, I have a 95 psd and would like to add a programmer.
What is availiable, Griffin and the phenoix? Pros and cons/diffrences for each?
Are they programmers that need mounted and so they come with a pod?
what is the cost?
Adding a programmer (Gryphon):
Pros:
1. Easy installation. Plug in, follow the prompts, and play.
2. Forget it's there. No external parts/pieces to think about.
Cons:
1. Not "switch on the fly". Requires the engine to be shut off and 5 or so minutes to change "tunes".
2. If you feel that you need more than three different "tunes", then you're stuck with just three.
Adding a "chip" (Phoenix Module):
Pros:
1. Availability of up to six different programs.
2. Switch on the fly capability to instantly change your truck's personality.
Cons:
1. Requires a bit of mechanical competence to install.
2. Mounting of a control switch.
Bill said this in another thread and I agree:
I don't find 3 settings limiting outside of the fact that programs like Whisper Mode, High Idle and No Start are unusable with a programmer. I've always found 1 program I liked and just drove on that until the wheels fall off. Other folks may feel differently.....sometimes 6 positions are too many.
In either case, a reliable and accurate EGT gauge is almost a necessity to prevent engine damage. You really can't go wrong either way.
tdnp
Thu, April 30th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Does the Phoenix require a pod? I like the idea of whisper mode, I will have to look at the costs again.
Thanks for the info.
cleatus12r
Thu, April 30th, 2009, 07:16 PM
Yes, the Phoenix Module will require a gauge pod with at least a pyrometer. Keep in mind that the Gryphon programmer will also need a pyrometer probe installed in the exhaust manifold to display EGT.
As far as the Whisper Mode program goes, since you have an early single-shot truck, the whisper mode will work really well.