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average-joe
Mon, May 25th, 2009, 04:41 PM
My truck is going into fords body shop tomorrow ,my question is should i return the Gryphon to stock or leave it alone.?
The bed of the truck has to come off so i think they will disconect the battery for a few days plus my light bar is hardwired in to the wiring loom.(someones going to have fun time with that)

Are there any issues with this?
Thanks for any help.

rednoved
Mon, May 25th, 2009, 06:47 PM
I would return it to stock. You never know when they might mess with something. Better safe than sorry.

SubiGT
Mon, May 25th, 2009, 07:41 PM
I would return it to stock. You never know when they might mess with something. Better safe than sorry.

I agree. The less the service department knows about my aftermarket tuner of choice, the better. I remove the unit and re-flash stock whenever I go to the dealer.


Question for Bill if he reads this. Is there a max number of re-flashes like some other manufacturers ECU's are purported to have? I know my Subaru has a max in the 200-250 range of re-flashes. No one seems to know what the exact number is. I was just curious if Ford had this limitation as well.

average-joe
Mon, May 25th, 2009, 08:25 PM
My ford dealer WON'T re-flash my truck and they are ok with the Gryphon,ive talked at length with them about it,so that i'm not worried about.

Jackpine
Mon, May 25th, 2009, 08:30 PM
My ford dealer WON'T re-flash my truck and they are ok with the Gryphon,ive talked at length with them about it,so that i'm not worried about.

If you are absolutely certain they won't reflash you, then there's really no reason to return it to stock. Still, I'd unplug the Gryphon and leave it at home. No sense tempting fate. You can just pull it out of the pod and unplug it at the back of the Gryphon, leaving the pod and cable in place.

- Jack

average-joe
Mon, May 25th, 2009, 08:42 PM
My advise if you use a Ford dealership is to have them note on your file/account in bolt letters ****DO NOT RE-FLASH PCM****
Dealers will bend over backwards to keep you happy today.

Thanks jack for the reply i needed.

88Racing
Mon, May 25th, 2009, 11:21 PM
Put it back to stock if the battery is going to be disconnected for a couple of days. Remove unit so it doesn't grow legs.

Lars

Power Hungry
Tue, May 26th, 2009, 03:34 AM
I agree. The less the service department knows about my aftermarket tuner of choice, the better. I remove the unit and re-flash stock whenever I go to the dealer.


Question for Bill if he reads this. Is there a max number of re-flashes like some other manufacturers ECU's are purported to have? I know my Subaru has a max in the 200-250 range of re-flashes. No one seems to know what the exact number is. I was just curious if Ford had this limitation as well.

Not that I'm aware of. I've reflashed test PCMs literally hundreds of times without incident. Who know what tomorrow will bring, though. :shrug:

SubiGT
Tue, May 26th, 2009, 05:25 PM
Not that I'm aware of. I've reflashed test PCMs literally hundreds of times without incident. Who know what tomorrow will bring, though. :shrug:

Thx, just curious.

BlackSTX
Wed, May 27th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Having worked in a dealership, I'll say most techs won't mess with it; however, you can never be sure about some goofball wanting to give it a look and changing something, or walking away with it. I think they're right, take it out of the truck.

kd4crs
Wed, May 27th, 2009, 09:00 PM
The best advice, which covers all situations when taking your truck to a dealership, is: Always, always, ALWAYS, return the truck to the stock program and remove the programmer. That way if they do flash it, no harm done. At worst, your hex code may change and if you have custom tunes they will need to be updated. With the programmer in your possession it should not get away from you.