Tweaking Custom Tunes

[907DAVE]

I am interested getting into tuning my 7.3. I am no stranger to this engine but have no experience in programming them. I am looking to make minor (or what I believe is) changes to my custom tunes from a well known company. Will the minotaur software be able to do this? Eventually I would like to do my own tuning but want to start small to learn my way around.

[907DAVE]

Anyone?:confused:

[cleatus12r]

Oh boy. Minotaur will scare the daylights out of you.

Just kidding. Yes, you can get as major or as minor as you would like with the changes that are available with Minotaur.

[soutthpaw]

Cody, don't you need a way to pull the custom tunes off the current chip to get the binary file??? minotaur wont do that

[cleatus12r]

If Dave purchases the Minotaur package, he gets the basic binaries with it, a burner, and PhoenixFlash.

[907DAVE]

Oh boy. Minotaur will scare the daylights out of you.



Thats what I was hoping for......I love learning new things and taking on new challenges!!

As far as the truck goes I have twin turbos, hybrid injectors, dual HPOP's and dont want to make major changes to my tuning, just do some tweaking on the shift points and low end fueling.

Cody, how involved is it to access my custom tunes?

[cleatus12r]

Depends who tuned it....

If it was someone who is willing to send you binary they used in your current tuning, then you are all set.

[907DAVE]

If not?

[cleatus12r]

Sometimes there are other ways of getting it......;)

Call up your tuner and see if they will allow you to get the binary....provided you let them know that it will be for your exclusive use and have no intent to distribute their intellectual property.

[907DAVE]

That what I figured but was not sure if there was an easier way.

[cleatus12r]

I edited a couple of posts to clarify a bit.

[Power Hungry]

Vee haf vays of gettink zee kustom toonz out of zee chips! No chip iz zafe from pryink eyez.

[Blowby]

:rofl:

[theSLEEPER]

Notice the time that Bill wrote this? He hadn't been to bed yet. I think he was getting a little loopy. :crazy:

:smiley_roll1:

HOLY MOLY!!! LOL

[F-127]

Ok, I was going to start a new topic but found this information relating to my question. Have a truck at our shop with a 6 position tuner. This person bought the truck in FL(in MN now), and I really doubt that the person has any contact info from who he bought it from. So that puts us at not knowing who did the tuning. I really understand the issue with not distributing the intellectual property of someone else without permission, which I wouldn't, but I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place if this person would like me to make any changes to their tunes unless I go about re-writing some tunes for him.

Edit: just noticed the second page of posts after I made this one.

[cleatus12r]

The problem you'll run into is that the TS chips have "vendor codes" specific to whoever owns the rights to the tuning software they happen to be using. For example, I have a chip burner from David Lott at Diesel Innovations. His burner code is "DD". Bill uses a code of "BC". The problem is that the burner code AND the chip code MUST MATCH or you cannot read, erase, or do much of anything with the chip. It sucks for sure, but it's a safeguard for someone else' IP.

So......

On Edit:

If you ever find an old "blue" TS burner, I'd buy it from you.

[F-127]

So if I am reading right, even if I were to get approval from the vendor to use their binary files, I would still be unable to write to the current chip in that truck if the "vendor code" is different?

The only luck would getting the binary files from the vendor, and writing them to a new blank chip?

Either that or writing completely new files?
Or even sending back to the vendor to get re-burned if necessary?

This being said, this truck likely does not really need changes to tuning. I was asking mostly out of my curiosity. Its an OBS 7.3l modded out pretty good, H2E, intercooler, FASS fuel system, etc...
It actually came in for blowing off the intake hose off of the turbo compressor outlet, And this even has one of those constant torque clamps on it.