stock truck

[jvalentin]

I have a 2001 F250 completely stock other than it is straight piped. I am wanting to put a chip in it for hopefully some better mileage and some better pulling power. I am not interested in the hight performance settings and i am wondering if PHP makes a chip that will work for stock trucks, or if it is a necessity to have a egt guage. I have heard very good things about their chips but i do not want to damage anything either, by neglect on my part. Thanks for any info.

[ticopowell]

PHP has a chip that will fit your truck, or a programmer too. There are a lot of people that have stock trucks on here I am sure, and unless you get a high horsepower tune, you shouldnt have to worry about any EGT issues. But then again I dont know too much about diesels so before you buy something I would either call up PHP or wait for others to respond. I do know that it wont hurt anything if you have an EGT sensor, except your wallet that is :smiley_roll1:, so if you can get one I would just to be safe. :D

[rammertide07]

If you're looking for more power to assist pulling, I highly reccomend gauges. At least pyro and trans temp gauge....but you might as well get a boost gauge too. a $300 set of gauges can save you a $2100 transmission rebuild or replacing/rebuilding the engine.

[907DAVE]

All though you probably wont need any gauges if using the tunes properly, it is a really good idea to have them.....especially if you do any towing. It is always good to keep an eye on what is happening to prevent any damage to your engine or transmission.

[jvalentin]

thanks for the info. I am mainly wainting chip for mpg but yes this is a all around farm pickup that pulls some heavy trailers.

[dietoremain]

i wouldnt run a php chip(anything over 80hp) without gauges.. i pegged my pyro a few times(1100-1200) on the hotter tunes, just gotta watch it. Btw i have intake, 1.0 exhaust housing, and straight pipe and still hit that. So yeah you need gauges if you are serious its worth every penny though..

[catman2]

You have a straight pipe which helps get the hot EGTs out but whether you get a chip or gauges later you should upgrade your intake now.

Pull the stock filter and the box and lid it was in and be sure to keep it all together. Go to NAPA and get a 6637 filter, a 4" long piece of 4" exhaust pipe and hose clamp. Stick one end of the 4" pipe in the filter, the other in the black intake hose and clamp them down. You now have a DIY Tymar intake for under $65.00. Your truck will breath much better, lower EGTs and gain some hp, at least mine did. Take the stock filter and box that you kept together and chunk it.

[jvalentin]

thanks for all the great advice. i actually just ordered the napa filter yesterday from riffraff. I could get it cheaper there than doing it myself since my napa wanted 53 bucks for the filter. With this cold air intake and the straight pipe do you think i would be fine with the economy settings and a 25 and 40 horsepower tow settings. i may still put in a egt guage to just be safe , i just have never done it and am a little weary on it i guess. Thanks

[cj45lc]

thanks for all the great advice. i actually just ordered the napa filter yesterday from riffraff. I could get it cheaper there than doing it myself since my napa wanted 53 bucks for the filter. With this cold air intake and the straight pipe do you think i would be fine with the economy settings and a 25 and 40 horsepower tow settings. i may still put in a egt guage to just be safe , i just have never done it and am a little weary on it i guess. Thanks

Putting the gauge in is really not that bad, the exhaust manifold is cast iron & drills & taps nicely. I too was leary at first but really it's not bad
It's better to have it & not need it
Than to need it & not have it :thumbs up yellow:

[catman2]

thanks for all the great advice. i actually just ordered the napa filter yesterday from riffraff. I could get it cheaper there than doing it myself since my napa wanted 53 bucks for the filter. With this cold air intake and the straight pipe do you think i would be fine with the economy settings and a 25 and 40 horsepower tow settings. i may still put in a egt guage to just be safe , i just have never done it and am a little weary on it i guess. Thanks

I don't have gauges yet either but they're next on the list, even before a chip.
I do know that on my stock idiot gauge my heat temp guage jumped to 3/8"
as soon as I would start my truck and never move, in freezing cold to 100 degree summer driving. But as soon as I put the 6637 filter on, drilled a Zoodad through the grill and put a BTM flow through muffler on my stock exhaust I looked down and my temp needle never left the C mark. I've driven it in traffic and WOT and it doesn't move off cold now so that tells me my EGTs are substantially lower. Couple that with the fact it woke my sleepy 01' up and I've gained so much response and hp throughout the power band by just letting my PS gulp cool air a chip is now a luxury perk, not a must have item.

[rammertide07]

Not moving off the cold mark doesn't sound right to me...even for a cold air intake. IIRC, that gauge gets its reading from the coolant. And it takes longer for the coolant in the block to warm up vs a piston or egt probe. That gauge is not a substitue for a pyro. That gauge should get in the normal operating range, at least that is when my truck starts to shift better and run smoother. I don't consider the 6637 intake as a CAI. It is still completely exposed to the heat of the engine bay. Some people have fabricated an aluminum box to go around it and seal agiainst the hood. But it is still better than stock and cheaper than other CAI:thumbs up yellow:

[catman2]

The temp gauge moves but only half of what it did when I had my stock muffler. Today I cruised at eighty into a headwind with the outside ambient temperature at 70 degrees and it rose to the lower bracket bar right above the C. Thats as highest it goes now even when I get into it.

I'm by no means saying the dash temp. gauge is a subsitute for pyro gauges, I'm just saying my truck shifts and runs cooler and better than it ever has now that I did the intake and opened up the exhaust. It use to take almost the whole pedal to get it to eighty and now with a little toe action it jumps from 70 to 80 -85 effortlesly with peddle to spare. And wants to stay there. I'm sure it would go to 100 if I pressed it, something it hasn't done in ten years.

[rammertide07]

"it rose to the lower bracket bar right above the C."

That sounds more like it haha. I was thinking you had a bad dash gauge or bad coolant temp sensor.

When I had my stock exhaust and TS tuning, it was all my truck had to keep it at 100. Now I know I can get to 90 with plenty of engine left. Haven't been to 100 in a while. Last time I did that I was following another F350 from Alabama to Louisiana. We started out at 80 in Alabama, Mississippi went up to 90, and Louisiana we jumped up to 100.