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str088
Sun, April 24th, 2011, 07:41 PM
Hey guys I just had a question as far as the error codes that the
programmer reads. If an error code arises and you clear it if the
same parameters are met would that error code come up again or
would the programmer not show it since you've cleared it already?
I haven't gotten any codes so far but just wanted to know how that
worked. Thanks for the replies guys and happy Easter!

ticopowell
Mon, April 25th, 2011, 02:36 AM
A code will reappear as long as the conditions are met that it appears in the first place, so if you have a lean running cylinder for some reason, you see the code, clear it, but because you didnt fix or change anything it will reappear. hope that answers your question :D

str088
Tue, April 26th, 2011, 03:21 AM
I see, so it reappears? Good. What if another error code comes out and throws a code
you clear it, but you don't see it again, what's the verdict?

Jackpine
Tue, April 26th, 2011, 10:46 AM
The verdict is that the condition that would cause the code has mysteriously gone away. :shrug: (The truck has "fixed itself".) This can actually happen, under certain rare circumstances, and don't ask me what they are, because I don't know the answer! :hehe:

Really, though, the "code thing" in most cases is simply an interpretation of the PCM of a voltage that it receives from a sensor. If the sensor transmits a high or low voltage, the PCM "thinks" there's a problem in the system that the sensor is monitoring and sets a code accordingly. Notice the sensor itself COULD be faulty, or, the wiring to the sensor could be faulty. Something like a wiring fault can produce a code intermittently.

- Jack

str088
Wed, April 27th, 2011, 10:43 PM
Awesome! Cool I just wanted to know how that Error Code readings worked. Thanks a lot, you guys are a big help. I can't wait till my customized tunes are done!

str088
Fri, May 6th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Another question, just how sensitive is the error sensor for the programmer?
I'm guessing it's more sensitive than the trucks stock ecm, but just how good
is it? Thanks in advance.

Jackpine
Fri, May 6th, 2011, 05:53 PM
Another question, just how sensitive is the error sensor for the programmer?
I'm guessing it's more sensitive than the trucks stock ecm, but just how good
is it? Thanks in advance.

No, it tells you what error codes the PCM is reporting. The Gryphon is not "polling" the sensors at all, the PCM does that. "Sensitivity" is not an issue in the Gryphon.

- Jack

str088
Fri, May 6th, 2011, 11:21 PM
I see. Okay, so my next question is: is it possible for an error code to appear on the
programmer and have no CEL?

Jackpine
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 12:29 AM
I see. Okay, so my next question is: is it possible for an error code to appear on the
programmer and have no CEL?

Yes - an example is the P1000 code. There are surely others, but I don't know what they are. Some codes, by the way, do not relate to the engine. Some are specific to the transmission. I think some relate to brakes and even lighting.

- Jack

str088
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 02:05 AM
Good information thanks. This programmer is really that handy. I'm glad
I made the purchase.