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J.Walton
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 01:27 AM
I am looking into upgrading my edge to a Gryphon, I dont know much about it.
I have a 2007 F150 4x4, with the 4.6L. I have installed a K&N filter, gotts mod, Have e-fans in the shop, will be installing soon, currently a edge programmer, line-x rockers, bumpers, fender flares, and step bars, 2.5" leveling kit and 35' federal M/T's, 5% tint all around with 50% on the windshield, 2 JL 10s with a 500 watt amp and 4 polk audio component's in the doors with a amp on them, and a jvc 7" dvd in dash. I also have a extang bed cover, led bed lights, all lights on truck have been converted to led, custom built headlights from sickhids.com, and thats all I can think of right now. I have a set of 20x9 rims ordered and waiting on them and will be installing a 6" rough country lift in a week or two.
I drive 21 miles one way to work and most of that is highway. I am a aggressive driver about 50% of the time. Once I get on the highway I cruse, try to get my good MPG there ( currently get high 15- mid 16 mpg on the way to work, not bad for 35s) I am looking fore a tune I guess that will give me some more pep and wont kill my mpg. I tow my atv alot, on a 6x10 trailer but not much more than that. I dont know what I need but I will only be running 87 ( cheap grade) so all my tunes will be for that.
Now, yall fill me in on what I may need, what are the steps in getting my edge upgraded and whats the turn around time?
ticopowell
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 05:14 AM
Looks like a good setup you got there, tunes wise I think you should get the 87 tow and the 87 performance tunes. All you need to do to order the tunes on the php web site, they have a link there, and then explain to bill how you want your tunes to feel. the main question is which Edge do you have? if you have the CTS or CS then it will be simple to just upload the new tunes from fusion. If you have the regular old gryphon then you will need to send in the edge to get it converted to a gryphon. From what I am guessing, you have the regular old gryphon. this usually takes however long it takes to ship plus a few weeks. You will have to call PHP directly or wait for either Bill or Cody to respond to this thread to get a good estimate on time.
Another option that I just thought of, depending on how much your ATV and trailer weigh, you could get away with just a performance tune because they are rated to tow up to something like 2000 lbs. If they weigh close to that I would get the tow tune, but if the total weight of the trailer/ATV/cargo is less than that you should be ok, plus you can always switch over to the canned tow tune if you don't get a custom one yourself.
I hope this helped, and I am sure Jack or someone will chime in and explain some things better, but feel free to keep asking questions :D
Longshot270
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 10:40 AM
Since you have the 4.6 I'd recommend a performance and tow tune. I've got a 4.6 and pulled a little over 1500 pounds between the bed and a small trailer with my performance tune and would have preferred a tow tune. It got the job done but it wasn't the kind of situation where I would want to be going a long distance.
J.Walton
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 01:53 PM
I also need to know How to convert the measurements for my tires to put into the edge. I am running 35/12.5/R20, what would I put into the edge so it would be set for that tire size?
J.Wal
Longshot270
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 01:56 PM
It'll be somewhere around 2760. If your speedo is still slow then go up in tire size or the opposite if it is fast.
J.Walton
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 02:09 PM
Thanks bro!
J.Wal
J.Walton
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 06:50 PM
Ok so reading around it sounds like the upgrade with just canned tunes is going to be a improvement over the regular edge. I do have the oruginal edge, not cts or cs. I am wondering if there is a way they could do a performance tune with the cheap grade gas, 87. I would like to always be on the performance stage just incase I want to play. I know my atv weighs around 550-600 so with my trailer I wont be over 1000 I dont figure. I want the performance tune to run cheap grade, be peppy and still get good MPG when crusing. I know that is hard to do but do yall think bill can get something close? I figure I will be trying to contact them moday and get the ball rolling to get this done!
J.Walton
Sat, May 7th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Here are some pix of my truck
Here is what it looked like after I got it
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/DSC_0014web.jpg
Here it has been line-Xd
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/DSC_0076web.jpg
Here is what I tow
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/1689db48.jpg
After custome built head lights by Sickhids.com
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/DSC_0205.jpg
Nashville Fordfullsize.com truck meet
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/Meet3.jpg
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/Meet2.jpg
After 2.5" leveling kit and 35s
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/4f7a5b31.jpg
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/51b6cbab.jpg
and after my saleen grill
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/c4519dce.jpg
I have a set of rims ordered but they are on backorder, and I will be getting a 6" rough country lift installed once the rims come in!
Longshot270
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 02:24 AM
Bill can write an 87 octane performance tune. I've been running mine for over a year and love it.
I would also recommend a tow tune since you are putting your truck at a mechanical disadvantage with the bigger tires. It may not seem like it will pay for itself now but once you try it you'll be glad you did.
J.Walton
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 03:03 AM
Sweet. I will get with them and see what they can do.
J.Wal
ticopowell
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 03:36 AM
Nice fender flares! I need some for my truck at some point... when I get money for them lol :), how much did you pay for them and where did you get them?
I like the mirrors too :D
J.Walton
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 03:46 AM
They are bushwhackers, they were on the truck when I got it. Sorry
J.Wal
ticopowell
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 03:47 AM
no worries, thanks! :)
J.Walton
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 03:58 AM
I will say I think they are with the money. They do keep alot of stuff from coming up from your tires. And I had line-x put on mine so it helps too.
J.Wal
ticopowell
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 04:00 AM
That seems like a great idea with the linex, the towing mirrors in some of the pictures look pretty handy too, did you do those?
J.Walton
Sun, May 8th, 2011, 04:12 AM
Ya. Depending on your year model they are eather a plug and play or you may half to move one or two pins. They are great though!
J.Wal
J.Walton
Mon, May 9th, 2011, 05:16 PM
So I am planning on placing my order tomorrow, What all is needed for me to sent the edge I currently have to them. I know I half to set the truck to stock, how do I get the hex file? And if I order custome tunes will they load them while they have my edge?
J.Walton
Tue, May 10th, 2011, 02:39 PM
Will be sending mine out today!
J.Walton
Wed, May 11th, 2011, 02:42 PM
Its on it's way! Should be there by Friday!
J.Wal
BigSur
Thu, May 12th, 2011, 07:33 AM
Nice fender flares! I need some for my truck at some point... when I get money for them lol :), how much did you pay for them and where did you get them?
I like the mirrors too :D
Buckwacker "pocket style" fender flares....painted to match. I think I paid somewhere in the $600 range....painted and installed.
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx301/BigSur1/TRUCK/IMG_0471.jpg
ticopowell
Mon, May 16th, 2011, 03:09 AM
Looks good! :)
J.Walton
Mon, May 16th, 2011, 12:21 PM
they are worth the money to I think!
ticopowell
Mon, May 16th, 2011, 11:23 PM
I agree... especially with my bigger tires, I get water flung up all the time onto the sides of my truck, and I am sure more than that, but it usually doesnt show up lol :hehe:
J.Walton
Wed, May 18th, 2011, 06:20 PM
Ok so I sent my edge off on 05/11/11 and got a email today saing ups had received the electtronic shipping info and would be here on the 20th. I had asked them to keep it till the custome tunes were on it, one reason is because I have hughes net internet service and can only download a set amount a day, its the only high speed I can get where I live. So yall think it will have the tunes on it?
J.Walton
Thu, May 19th, 2011, 10:45 PM
well cody and bill called me today and got my gear size, and finished the custome tunes and sent it out, I should get it Monday!
J.Walton
Mon, May 23rd, 2011, 06:17 PM
Ok, got it in, when I go to install the performance tune it says to run 91 but I ordered a 87 performance tune. This normal?
J.Wal
cleatus12r
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 02:18 PM
This is the build order list:
1. 87 Custom Performance - 87 Octane Custom Performance Program
2. 87 Custom Towing - 87 Octane Custom Towing Program
3. 93 Performance - 93 Octane Performance Program
J.Walton
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 03:53 PM
So even though 1 says transmission only, it is my performance tune?
J.Wal
cleatus12r
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 04:24 PM
It shouldn't......
Does the "Gryphon" splash screen come up when you power up the unit?
J.Walton
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 04:40 PM
Ya, it comes up. Here is a video.
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/f1259a3e.mp4
J.Wal
cleatus12r
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 04:54 PM
I'll reset the download.
When you get into Pegasus (programmer set back to stock) and the backlight turns green, just hit [ctrl] and [t] at the same time.
I'll get back on here when it's done and let you know.
cleatus12r
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Ready.
J.Walton
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 05:13 PM
I sent you a pm. Can you call me?
J.Wal
cleatus12r
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Actually, the older Evolutions have the level names hard-coded in the firmware and cannot be changed like the newer ones can.
Your custom tunes are on the Gryphon in the order that I listed above but the menu will not reflect that.
Sorry, I just had to ask Bill that....
I'm not a Gryphon master.
J.Walton
Tue, May 24th, 2011, 05:47 PM
Ok, cool. I want to run the 87 performance so I need to set it to " trans only" right?
J.Wal
J.Walton
Wed, May 25th, 2011, 10:01 AM
Got my lift installed, it is getting an alinement now.
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/9ae02094.jpg
J.Wal
cleatus12r
Wed, May 25th, 2011, 10:40 AM
Good deal!
J.Walton
Wed, May 25th, 2011, 10:52 AM
Thanks for all the help yesterday!
J.Wal
J.Walton
Wed, May 25th, 2011, 03:10 PM
Here are some pix!
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/1d09654b.jpg
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/caaba2de.jpg
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/3f85961a.jpg
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/5940b181.jpg
J.Walton
Fri, June 10th, 2011, 07:25 AM
Got the rims in!
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/DSC_0011t3.jpg
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/DSC_0013t4.jpg
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg401/jwaltonpix/DSC_0014t6.jpg
J.Wal