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cj45lc
Sun, July 24th, 2011, 02:50 PM
I believe my mpg's have fallen off a little here lately & was just wondering how much the sensor or a plugged tube could be having to do with this. I've read were some tuning may depend on that sensor but I don't know how it affects Bill's tunes. I was thinking of pulling the tube off to see if it's plugged up but I'm not gonna fool with it if I should figure on just getting a sensor & tube because I'm pretty sure it hasn't been apart & I've got 190k miles on it. Just would like some info on how much it affects the tuning or mpg's.
cleatus12r
Mon, July 25th, 2011, 02:48 PM
If Ford put it on there, it's necessary :cheesy smile: .
There are quite a few things that the PCM looks at when dealing with the backpressure sensor. I'd make sure it's clean.
Power Hungry
Tue, July 26th, 2011, 11:57 AM
On a 6.0L, a clogged EBP Sensor/Tube will have a SIGNIFICANT effect on performance when you use a Non-Inferred EBP strategy. On a 7.3L, an EBP sensor can have a similar effect as the ECM uses EBP as a means to determine calculations for Load (which handle shifting) and for fuel control. While the truck will run fine with an EBP sensor that is clogged, it is not going to be operating at peak.
cj45lc
Tue, July 26th, 2011, 07:55 PM
Hey thanks for the replies fellas, I found the sensor for $35 shipped so I went ahead & ordered it. I figure if the one that's on there is not sooted up I'll have a spare. Just looking at the tube on the truck it looks to be in good shape so I'm thinking I'll just pull the sensor off & see if tube is clear. Do ya'll think it would hurt to clean the tube like on guzzle's site without removing the tube, I'm thinking anything that would go in the exhaust manifold would pass through the exhaust w/o hurting anything.
Power Hungry
Wed, July 27th, 2011, 01:53 PM
It shouldn't hurt. Any small carbon particles will blow right through before the turbo even gets moving. Just don't load the manifold up with chemicals. If you need to use solvent, use just a little bit and then start the vehicle to allow the chemicals to blow out.
You can also check for a clogged EBP tube by removing the sensor and cranking the vehicle up. You should feel a noticeable pressure at idle.
Good luck.
cj45lc
Wed, July 27th, 2011, 05:45 PM
It shouldn't hurt. Any small carbon particles will blow right through before the turbo even gets moving. Just don't load the manifold up with chemicals. If you need to use solvent, use just a little bit and then start the vehicle to allow the chemicals to blow out.
You can also check for a clogged EBP tube by removing the sensor and cranking the vehicle up. You should feel a noticeable pressure at idle.
Good luck.
Ok thanks Bill, I was wondering if I would be able to feel anything at the tube with the sensor removed.
cj45lc
Tue, August 2nd, 2011, 08:35 AM
Well so much for my idea of just taking the sensor off & running something through the tube, that didn't happen. I got the new sensor yesterday & am happy I went ahead & got it because the old one was packed with soot. The fitting at the top of the tube was packed solid so I ended up removing the tube & had to pick through the fitting that the tube & sensor attach to. The tube itself was in good shape & washed out with brake kleen & weedwacker line pretty easily & the fitting on the exhaust manifold was nice and clear. When I started the engine with the old sensor removed I could hardly feel any pressure at the tube, after the cleaning my finger got HOT real quick when I had the wife rev the engine a bit...lol Hopefully my fuel mileage will increase.
wvmudder
Tue, November 1st, 2011, 07:05 PM
I was just wondering if your mileage improved after this?
Thanks,
DS
cj45lc
Wed, November 2nd, 2011, 03:44 PM
I was just wondering if your mileage improved after this?
Thanks,
DS
I have not really drove it enough to check the mileage but we are thinking about taking a ride down the through Va this weekend so I should be able to check it then.
It did make a difference in how the trans shifted tho
cj45lc
Sun, November 6th, 2011, 03:51 PM
Well did a little trip over the weekend, went from Delaware to Va through Harpers Ferry down to Charlotesville then over to Harrisonburg
First checked on the 80dd & got 18.3 mpg mixed driving mostly back roads 55-65 mph & a little interstate 70-75 mpg
Checked it coming home on the 120race, 80-90% interstate 70-75 mph 17.6mpg
So I'd say yes the EBP tube & sensor being clean did increase my mpg by 1-2mpg at least.
Robert6401
Sat, December 3rd, 2011, 06:10 PM
Hopefully you found how easy it is to remove and clean the tube. It really is simple enough to check and clean every so often it should almost be part of somewhat regular maintenance.
Edit : Well, I just remembered that having the right tools available is probably what made it so easy. I believe I had to use some crowfoot wrenches to get it apart.
cj45lc
Sat, December 3rd, 2011, 07:24 PM
Hopefully you found how easy it is to remove and clean the tube. It really is simple enough to check and clean every so often it should almost be part of somewhat regular maintenance.
Edit : Well, I just remembered that having the right tools available is probably what made it so easy. I believe I had to use some crowfoot wrenches to get it apart.
Yep Bob I was pretty surprised at how easy it was to do & I'm gonna try to do it every couple of years or so :thumbs up yellow:
A/Ox4
Mon, February 6th, 2012, 08:25 PM
Here is my how to for the EBPS. Mine was not bad, and I noticed no change, in MPG but I know many people who have reported improvements.
How to: Improve MPG on 7.3L Powerstroke - Cleaning EBPS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLZI2wMpn5I)