Gryphon vs. Phoenix + guages...

[muns53]

So, the nature of my question comes because there's a bunch of people out there I hear saying analog guages are the way to go, etc. But, I'm not a purist about most things - I usually try to seek the middle path.

My application for a tune is to juice my truck up a bit without doing any long-term damage; increase the mileage (although I will mostly run on veg and not diesel, but still... nice to have the better mileage... less oil to filter); get better on/off ramp and passing power; and just have more fun with my 8000lb toy! I also will tow a 5K-ish trailer (with veg oil on it) from time to time on long trips - and envision towing a family camper at some point (I've got four kids). I also drive up/down hilly terrain all winter to & from skiing and all summer to & from hiking/camping/etc. Also, I get pesky codes in my truck that I would like to read & clear on a regular basis - mostly as a result of opening up the airflow with my intake/exhaust and stomping on it once in a while for fun which sets up a boost alarm.

So, I'm trying to see what's the downside of going with the Gryphon - I'd get my guages and tuner in one package - plus a code reader - plus three power levels and the ability to play with shift points. And I could do it for less money than a Phoenix+guages or other tuner+guages setup.

Do you guys with the Gryphon find the three power settings limiting?

Do I need to put in a boost-fooler? If yes, does that impact my ability to get an accurate boost reading from the Gryphon?

Thanks for your thoughts! :cheesy smile:

[Power Hungry]

Let's see if I can help answer your questions...

The biggest downside to the Gryphon is the lack of ability to switch on-the-fly like a chip can. To change levels you'd have to go through a full programming session which takes about 3 minutes. Other than that, the tuning is the same.

I don't find 3 settings limiting outside of the fact that programs like Whisper Mode, High Idle and No Start are unusable with a programmer. I've always found 1 program I liked and just drove on that until the wheels fall off. Other folks may feel differently.

In most applications, you will not need the boost regulator. We handle the correction for that in the tuning. Running the boost regulator will affect the accuracy of the gauge on the programmer since it clamps the output to 24 PSI.

I'm sure others will chime in with their opinions shortly. :)

[soutthpaw]

I look at it this way. Why settle if you can afford to get the best... Most electronic gauge clusters require a EGT probe that is additional cost. The factory PCM does not have an EGT monitor that's why you have to add it. All the other items are already reported to the PCM by factory sensors and read via the OBDII connection...

as it sounds like you could benefit from switching between multiple programs, I would get the Phoenix or the Free Updates chip coming the end of this month... You can't go wrong with either option...

[muns53]

Bill,

Thank you very much for the personal reply! I appreciate it.

Southpaw,

Thank you also - and nice-lookin' rig! Our trucks could be cousins - very similar mods...

[chappy]

I have an edge I bought used for a good price I use for gauges.I also just ordered a phoenix chip from Bill last week.I have my boost fooler on so as Bill said,It doesn't read the boost properly and I need to buy a mechanical boost gauge.