Clutch Issues?

[ticopowell]

Hey all,
I just noticed today that I might have a problem with my clutch, It feels different, and I kinda think it feels like when I push it in all the way, that it doesnt go in all the way like it used to. I would equate it to having a clutch cable that is too long, but since it uses fluid, could it be that there isnt enough fluid in it? Thanks for the help, let me know what y'alls think!
:D

[rammertide07]

Not familiar with manual transmissions (except they are better and easier to work on), but just browsing at TDS and found a recent/active thread on a similar issue. Maybe you can find some info on it to help with your problem.

clutch on floor will not return - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com (http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f25/clutch-floor-will-not-return-290314/)

[ticopowell]

I looked over that, but i'm not sure that is the same problem. My clutch pedal goes down all the way to the floor, and it comes up just fine, but the first 6ish inches doesnt do anything to the clutch itself, and it feels like the clutch doesnt release all the way when the pedal is all the way to the floor... I had a very hard time of putting the truck in gear, especially reverse, when the engine was on, but once the engine was off it shifted just fine.

[907DAVE]

Sounds like there might be a bit of air in the line.

Have you tried to bleed it yet?

Where is the fluid leaking?

[ticopowell]

Sounds like there might be a bit of air in the line.

Have you tried to bleed it yet?

Where is the fluid leaking?

I haven't tried anything yet, and I haven't seen any leaks, I just based my ideas on how I thought it should work. I looked at the reservoir and I didn't see any fluids in it, should I have?

[cj45lc]

I haven't tried anything yet, and I haven't seen any leaks, I just based my ideas on how I thought it should work. I looked at the reservoir and I didn't see any fluids in it, should I have?

If you don't have any fluid in the reservoir you probably have air in the line or slave cylinder. Fill the reservoir, bleed the system & find the leak, the fluid had to go somewhere.

[cleatus12r]

Not familiar with manual transmissions (except they are better and easier to work on)

:hmmm:

You've never been into either style have you? :hehe:


Couldn't resist.....even on my forum reply hiatus. :whistle1:

[rammertide07]

:hmmm:

You've never been into either style have you? :hehe:


Couldn't resist.....even on my forum reply hiatus. :whistle1:


Naww...I never have. Thats just what I've heard from other people that have. Thats not a job I would want to tackle myself on my daily driver.

So the automatic is easier???

[ticopowell]

I couldn't tell ya which is easier... but I know the manual was expensive :/. $500ish to replace the master and slave cylinders, but it works great now! :D

[907DAVE]

Manual tranny hard parts can be VERY expensive. I think most believe they are cheap to fix and hardly ever break, but the cost to rebuild a ZF is nearly double what it would be to do a 4R100.

[rammertide07]

Which is harder to work on?

[Jeremy]

Manual tranny hard parts can be VERY expensive. I think most believe they are cheap to fix and hardly ever break, but the cost to rebuild a ZF is nearly double what it would be to do a 4R100.

Good thing they last twice as long... :rofl: Oh wait....sometimes they don't. My ZF6 tossed out the springs in the clutch, then the slave cyl failed, and then the clutch fork bent and failed..... and then and finally then the whole trans failed at ~70k. It lost the pocket bearing. I just exchanged it with the HO version thats in the 02-03's($1900). So far so good. I still perfer it for towing vs, 4R100's or the 5R110's. With the US gear OD behind it, it make for a awesome towing machine, Always in the right gear...

If it had a high HP truck with injectors, big oil and turbos, I'd run a 4R100 too, just for the fun factor. :cheesy smile:

[ticopowell]

What is the US gear with OD? and would I want one?

[rammertide07]

Its a gear splitter, gives you like an in-between gear (1st, 1st-over, 2nd, 2nd-over...) Mounts between the transmission and differential. It helps the rpms from falling so much when pulling. I'm not sure if US Gear makes them anymore....I know Gear Vendor does...you can pick one up for $3k IIRC. If you do a lot of heavy towing it would be handy to have. I don't know what kind of power output they are rated too though. I think I've seen some 500hp trucks with Gear Vendors unit in Diesel Power.

My rebuild with some upgrades was $2100.

[rammertide07]

Also, sometimes it's an under/over drive...it will never give you 1:1 ratio. I think for a dedicated hauler it would be a good option.

[cj45lc]

US Gear got bought out & no longer makes or services the O/U units, I just found this out last week from Barney. He has one & loves it. From what I seen when I was looking into it a few years ago I didn't think the Gear Vender was even close to the US Gear in strength, but then again I don't know everything...lol

[ticopowell]

Cool, thanks :)

[rammertide07]

I didn't think the Gear Vender was even close to the US Gear in strength

I heard the same thing last week from a guy over at TDS