Hello Everyone Malo from Oregon

[mmandley]

Hi everyone just ordered my Griffen Programmer looking forward to that.

New to forums

Info on my truck: 06 F150 4x4 S-Cab 5.4L
Options 3.55 axles 7500 payload option, trans cooler, heavy duty cooling system, tow package, and suspension kit.

Custom items so fare- tinted windows, window flares, bed cover, rhino liner, Flowmaster Exhaust custom duel pipes, molded mud flaps, 2.5inch leveling kit on front end, and JLT CAI kit.

Just bought a 2008 Moomba Mobius LSV Wake-boarding boat to make that truck work for a living and desided i better get a programmer for towing

Any advise you have or help would be great thanks for having me.

[Project Pat]

Hello and welcome aboard...

[88Racing]

Welcome to the forum!

Nice list of customs!

Talk to Bill or Jack about what you need. I went with a 87 oct perf tune and a 87 oct tow tune. Perf tune for when I am not hooked up and for the econmy aspect of the price of 87 oct gas. The tow tune for the same reason and listed on the order form what weights I would be pulling. Left the third tune alone. Then make sure to list any mods if any have been done to the truck.

So that's all I know in a nutshell!

Lars

[mmandley]

Yes sir i sent them a pretty detailed list of my boat and what weights and types of altitudes i would be pulling threw.

Also sent them the Vin and build sheet on my truck from the factory to make sure Bill had all the info he would need. I haven't installed the JLT kit as of yet. I was really disappointed when i got the JLT and it said i had to buy there programmer because i was already set on the Evo computer. I like the Dash mount and the ability to see my trans temp, MPG and such at the touch of a button.

I spoke to EVO and they sent me here to get the Griff and i love what i see so fare. I cant wait to get the new Griff and get it all installed.

I did ask for the 87 Performance tune
Corey recommended i get the 87 Tow Tune and i Oked that also.

Only thing im trying to figure out is when i get the Griff do i install it then run the truck. Then go back and install my JLT CAI or do i install it all at once and then run the truck?

I been searching the forums to see if anyone has a JLT kit to see what they have asked and found out.

[JWBFX4]

Welcome to the forum, those moomba boats are nice :drool2:

[mmandley]

Thanks im real excited to get it in the water and start breaking in the 5.7L it has in it.

I got to water test one in Jan even though it was cold out it was a blast and i was sold on the boat after that. I just picked it up from the dealer Saturday and brought home and wedged it into my garage.

Had to relocate the washer and dryer to make it fit lol. Got it all done and its looking real nice in the garage. I was surprised how small it makes my truck look when its hooked up, i never seen anything except the F350 type trucks make mine look small LOL.

Hope to gets some pics posted soon on Facebook with the truck and boat.

send me a PM if you want to hook up with my Facebook page :thumbs up yellow:

[88Racing]

Okay info on the jlt cai.

Don't put it on until you get the "custom" tunes if they told you that a programmer should be used with it. JLT/Edge is probably worried about the cai and edge making a lean fuel mix when put together. The same goes for the gryphon before custom tunes arrive.

When you first get the gryphon its set up just like the edge with 3 tunes
1. Tranny
2. Tow
3. 93 perf

When you get it follow the instructions and get your hex code in asap!
The hex code is what Bill needs to start building the tunes. Then if all goes well in about 5-6 weeks you will get the custom tunes.(Don't quote me on the wait time). Let Bill tell you the wait time. Just be patient, PHP is only Bill and Corey! And they are GREAT!

Lars

[mmandley]

Awesome thanks for the info. Am I correct to assume when I install the gryphon I will still see a notable differance in performance while I wait for my custom tunes? I can hook it up drive and tow like normal or will I need to disconect the gryphon untill I get the new tunes?

[Jackpine]

Boy, am I ever late jumping in here. However, I think 88racing has covered it all beautifully! Good on you!

Welcome to the forum, mmandley! :howdy:

By all means, plug the Gryphon in and try it out when you get it. The canned "tow" tune is actually a pretty good all around tune to start with, although some folks just try the Level 1 tranny tune. If you use 91+ octane gas though, program your truck with the Level 3 tune.

I think you're going to see a notable difference - I did.

I'm guessing the boat is not TOO heavy? Maybe less than 2500#? If so, any tune will work fine. But, Bill will write you a custom towing tune for it that is much better than the canned tune. The canned one is set for loads in the 5000# range.

That was good advice on the CAI. Don't install it till you get a tune written for it.

- Jack

[mmandley]

Hi there JackandJanet

I run regular 87 Gas in the truck most of the time. I was just wondering i have tons of questions all the time lol. I really want to tank everyone so fare for answering the questions and helping ease my mind. I have only done 1 power chip and that was in my 92 Firebird back in 96 and it was the old take this chip out of the PCM and plug this chip into the PCM.

As fare as my boat it weighs with trailer empty apx 4700lbs.

The boat is 3500 and the trailer is 1200 apx. I was pklanning on pulling this type of boat back when i got the truck and bought it with all the heavy duty options i could. I almost regret not gettign the F250 version but at the time my budget didnt afford it. This truck its self was close to 40K sticker.

You mention the canned tow tune and then theres the 91 performance tune canned of course and i understond those.

You mentioned a Trans tune. I saw those on the site but wasnt sure what that is? Is that the one that changes line pressure and shift points and makes the shifting more precise so the trans slips less? I was thinking thats what the Tow tune is all about?

Also i will install the gryphon and drive it with jsut it installed till i get the custom tunes im realy excited and looking forward to the improved performance. I know the 5.4L has a lot to offer just have to unleash it. I jsut have to wait till the Mad Doctor gets my custom tune ready and then i can get the JLT installed.

[Jackpine]

OK, now I have more information.

The canned tow tune is probably pretty good for your needs. I'm sure Bill can "tweak" it into a custom tune, but you should talk to him about it. Possibly, due to your gears, there may be some changes that will help. That's a pretty big load you'll have back there.

More beneficial than a suspension kit, in my humble opinion, would be a good, load distributing, anti-sway trailer hitch. Mine is an "Equal-I-Zer" hitch: http://www.equalizerhitch.com/ Anybody have different thoughts?

I'd definitely use the canned tow tune to tow, and I found it to be a pretty good all-around tune too, before I got my custom tow and non-tow tunes. It does more than just firm up the shifts. It changes the fueling strategy and puts more "oomph" in the low end.

DO NOT use the 91+ tune when towing! That's too much weight for a performance tune. But, if you wanted to use high test gas, Bill could write you a 91+ octane tow tune.

The Level 1 tune is something you could use when not towing. It firms up the shifts, and possibly changes the shift points, but it doesn't do much else. I'd have it replaced with a good custom 87 octane performance tune.

I think, with the load you will be pulling, you'll appreciate being able to monitor the transmission fluid temperature and the cylinder head temperature. Even with the cooler, I think you'll be surprised at how quickly the TFT can rise when climbing a hill.

- Jack

[mmandley]

Yea ive seen and herd about the Equl I Zer stuff and i even talked to Moomba about it before i got the boat and they ashured me it wouldnt need any of that. With the type of trailer i upgraded to and the low center of gravity the boat has since most of the weight is right over the trailer tandem axles it will be real steady.

The only thing they really asked when i was buying the boat is the type of truck i have and what towing gear i had for it already. Since the 06 is already rated at 10K+ towing and i did get the improved suspension on the truck it should be good. i pulled the boat home last Saturday and it was realy stable on the interstate and i took it up some steep hills in the area jsut to get the feel for it. The truck pulled great lots of power and the stability was fine. It was even raining and windy too.

I was quite impressed with the boat and truck as a combo. I just kow with a load liek that i realy do want all the guages and reading i can get for my truck. I dont want to be one of those people you see going up a mountain road with the hood up lights flashing and a pissed off woman in the passenger seat lol.

I did request to get a Custom Tow tune for 87 and a Performance tune for 87. I think it will all work out great. Plus i was reaidng some other areas and saw an electric cooling fan set up i want to get now too so i can free up some ponnies on the front of the engine. Not sure if i want to go with underdrive pullies yet or not. Been thinking about the headers but not realy sold on that yet eighter. Also im pretty sure if i got headers id have to get new tunes.