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Outlaw Bill
Sat, August 15th, 2009, 06:36 PM
This has been eating at me for years. What is the difference between the two?. Only the 6 speed had this cal, I keep hearing its the same as the 250hp, but the 6 speed eats less power, which I don't believe for one minute. I hate having smoke blown up my behind.

Power Hungry
Sat, August 15th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Okay, so we won't blow smoke up your behind, but how about out your tailpipe? :giggle: (Sorry... I couldn't resist.)

The manual transmission trucks have always had a higher power output rating than the automatics because Ford felt the ZF6 could handle the power and wanted to prevent automatic transmission failures to a minimum.

To answer your question quite simply, the manuals have some moderate tuning changes to make more power in the RPM range in which the engines are rated:

A/T - 250 HP @ 2600 RPM, 505 Ft./Lbs. @ 1600 RPM
M/T - 275 HP @ 2800 RPM, 525 Ft./Lbs. @ 1600 RPM

Two significant changes are:

Mass Fuel Limit vs. RPM
http://www.phptune.com/images/misc/fuel_limit_-_man_vs_auto_thumb.jpg (http://www.phptune.com/images/misc/fuel_limit_-_man_vs_auto.jpg)
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Start of Injection (Main)
http://www.phptune.com/images/misc/soi_main_-_man_vs_auto_thumb.jpg (http://www.phptune.com/images/misc/soi_main_-_man_vs_auto.jpg)
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As you can see, Ford specifically modified these table to achieve another 25 HP out of the engine in the higher RPM range. They raised the Fuel Limit on the M/T trucks and also added about 3º of timing starting at about 2600 RPM.

Ford didn't do anything special really... just did what the chip manufacturers had been doing already. :D

Take care.

Outlaw Bill
Sun, August 16th, 2009, 01:35 AM
Thank you Bill.