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th3godf4th3r Mon, June 15th, 2009 12:08 PM

added UD pulley's, need to change anything?
 
hey bill and corey,

i just added UD pulleys, is there anything i need to change? like idle speed or anything?

thanks

88Racing Mon, June 15th, 2009 12:30 PM

Yes, go into CO and bump the idle up 50-75 rpms. With everything on you don't want to fall below 13.0 volts on the voltage pid.

Lars

Corey Cohron RIP Mon, June 15th, 2009 01:15 PM

Damn, Lars, you're good. :cool:

th3godf4th3r Mon, June 15th, 2009 01:45 PM

ok thanks, i set it at 65.

is that all?

also i dont know if anybody can help out about this but the gryphon is showing i have 2 DTC's

1. P0480 Fan 1 Control Circuit

2. P0528 Fan Speed Sensor Circuit No Signal


i dont get where i would check for this, i have the harness connected that connects to the fan and there is nothing else unplugged

any ideas?

Jackpine Mon, June 15th, 2009 01:55 PM

I don't know what to check either. Sounds like the system thinks you have e-fans, but you don't show that you do. I don't think there's any kind of monitoring for the clutch driven fan.

- Jack

88Racing Mon, June 15th, 2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by th3godf4th3r (Post 10645)
ok thanks, i set it at 65.

is that all?

also i dont know if anybody can help out about this but the gryphon is showing i have 2 DTC's

1. P0480 Fan 1 Control Circuit

2. P0528 Fan Speed Sensor Circuit No Signal


i dont get where i would check for this, i have the harness connected that connects to the fan and there is nothing else unplugged

any ideas?

Try clearing the codes to see if they come back.

Make sure all connections are tight.

Check to make sure there isn't a magnetic pickup sensor on the old waterpump pulley.
I haven't dealt w/ to many 2008's yet.

Lars

th3godf4th3r Mon, June 15th, 2009 02:07 PM

ok i will try clearing them. im positive there is only one connection to the fan and it is plugged in.

also there wasnt anything on the water pump, but i will make sure there is nothing around it

Sburn Mon, June 15th, 2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 10648)
I don't know what to check either. Sounds like the system thinks you have e-fans, but you don't show that you do. I don't think there's any kind of monitoring for the clutch driven fan.

- Jack

Ford changed stuff on the engine fans, starting ~2006 or 2007. Even though the fan is driven by the water pump pulley as before, the clutch is controlled by the PCM. And it appears to be more than just on/off control. Looks like the PCM outputs PWM (pulse-width moulation) which controls how much the clutch locks up, which in turn controls the actual speed of the fan. It's a closed loop system because the fan then has a sensor that reports its RPM back to the PCM. There's DTCs for when the PCM commands the fan clutch to engage and but doesn't see an increase in the reported fan speed.

88Racing Mon, June 15th, 2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sburn (Post 10651)
Ford changed stuff on the engine fans, starting ~2006 or 2007. Even though the fan is driven by the water pump pulley as before, the clutch is controlled by the PCM. And it appears to be more than just on/off control. Looks like the PCM outputs PWM (pulse-width moulation) which controls how much the clutch locks up, which in turn controls the actual speed of the fan. It's a closed loop system because the fan then has a sensor that reports its RPM back to the PCM. There's DTCs for when the PCM commands the fan clutch to engage and but doesn't see an increase in the reported fan speed.

Beat me to it!
Better description than what I had to offer!

Lars

88Racing Mon, June 15th, 2009 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by th3godf4th3r (Post 10650)
ok i will try clearing them. im positive there is only one connection to the fan and it is plugged in.

also there wasnt anything on the water pump, but i will make sure there is nothing around it

Where you get your ud's from?

Lars


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