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garyfink Tue, February 14th, 2012 05:28 PM

adrenaline hpop
 
can anyone give me a heads up on the adrenaline hpop. are they a good buy?

rammertide07 Tue, February 14th, 2012 09:30 PM

Yes they are, but also check out the Terminator hpop.

cleatus12r Wed, February 15th, 2012 07:11 AM

.....and if you're chasing a low injection pressure problem with a stock pump and AB/AD injectors on a "hot" tune, don't be surprised if neither pump gets your pressure where it's supposed to be.

ToMang07 Wed, February 15th, 2012 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleatus12r (Post 55539)
.....and if you're chasing a low injection pressure problem with a stock pump and AB/AD injectors on a "hot" tune, don't be surprised if neither pump gets your pressure where it's supposed to be.


Feel free to elaborate...
:skeptic:

cleatus12r Thu, February 16th, 2012 10:08 PM

Oil usage is determined by intensifier piston area, plunger travel, and nozzle size.

Basically, split shot injectors waste a good bit of oil because there is a period of the injection event where oil is being used but no fuel is being injected. Couple this with a relatively small volume of fuel to begin with and the excessive injection pulse width that is required to empty an AB or AD injector and you have injectors that KILL HPO. There aren't problems under normal usage to tunes <80 HP in most cases. However, tuning that maxes out the injectors' capability (100 HP or so) really begins to show shortcomings because of this issue.

That's why hybrids and singles with larger nozzles are da' bomb. Hybrids have a smaller intensifier piston (basically use about 72% of the oil volume that stock injectors use per given amount of plunger travel) and larger nozzles allow a greater amount of fuel delivery in a given amount of time compared to stock nozzles. 300 RWHP with stock nozzles on stock injectors is WAY different than 300 RWHP with larger nozzles as far as the tuning is concerned.....and that USUALLY results in the ability of a HPO system to maintain pressure above and beyond what's possible with stock splits.

garyfink Fri, February 17th, 2012 10:48 AM

I just bought this truck about a year ago and I'm still shaking it down + going thru a giant learning curve as this is my first diesel anything. The truck just went over 300K and seems to be sound but a little weak in the hp area. Didn't know about the early 99 thing till after I bought it. I had the injectors out last winter and replaced one that was questionable with a factory reman. The tags on the injectors didn't say reman on them so I'm taking it for granted that there original. So if I upgrade I should be looking at single shots?
are they noisier than double shots? and how does the idm fall into the mix? 110v vs. 220v. I was also looking at a ballbearing turbo setup from turbonetics but that's quite away down the pipline.

Did I say I love my truck. Well I do.

cleatus12r Fri, February 17th, 2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by garyfink (Post 55666)
So if I upgrade I should be looking at single shots?

Depends. If you're just looking to drive the truck, then there's no reason to do anything different with the injectors. You can run stock tuning (read:cheaper) and you really won't notice the difference.
are they noisier than double shots? They don't have to be. It's all in the tuning.and how does the idm fall into the mix? The IDM doesn't care what injectors it's running. There is no appreciable difference between stock IDMs and they all put out about the same voltage regardless of part number.110v vs. 220v. I was also looking at a ballbearing turbo setup from turbonetics but that's quite away down the pipline. If you can find one, then go for it. However, TN hasn't made it's drop-in journal OR ball-bearing turbochargers for almost 2 years. Besides, being an E99, you can't just put in a drop-in for a 99.5-03 anyway without changing a few other parts.

Did I say I love my truck. Well I do.

Hope that helps!

garyfink Fri, February 17th, 2012 05:24 PM

no the tn kit is a garret bb three different sizes to choose from includes the pedistal all the piping hoses and hardware. actually it looks like a very well put together kit all the piping is stainless stee and it also has the flex up-pipes in stainless. They also sell an aftermarket intercooler that's supposed to flow gobs better than the factory unit.

Ford Powerstroke

for 2500.00 it looks like a good deal.
I want to trick this thing out a bit and make some really decent power. Like around 400hp.
Give me the lo down on how to get there.
I think though my next upgrade is to install 3:55 gears and a posi.

rammertide07 Fri, February 17th, 2012 06:07 PM

It would help us to help you if you fill out the signature block in the user CP. Do you have 4x4, what size tires? These are factors to consider if your thinking about going with a higher gear. If you're never going to pull anything too heavy, 2x4, factory size tires..go for it. Personally I wouldn't because you sacrafice torque for HP. It just comes down to your use and need for the truck.

What gears do you currently have?

garyfink Sat, February 18th, 2012 05:16 AM

ok I did the siggy.
can you tell me what is a buzz test. I watched a video a while back on you tube from powerstokehelp.com and when they turned the key on the injectors sounded like they were sparking or buzzing. I can't here that on my truck.:shrug:


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