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ChrisCNC Sun, July 31st, 2011 12:55 PM

4wd Electronic Shifting, what are locking hubs for?
 
I recently purchased my first 'real' pickup, 2003 Ford F250 Lariat SD, FX4 package.

I'm confused about the 4wd setup. It has lockable hubs and the 2wd-4wd-4wdLow selector on the dash.

What are the hubs for? It goes into 4wdLow no matter which way the hubs are turned, and the front driveline always turns, even when 2wd is selected. I have a feeling this is the way it is supposed to be, but wanted someone to explain things to me. The manual is unclear.

If it will shift into 4wd no matter which way the hubs are turned, what does locking and unlocking the hubs actually do? And does Ford actually think having the front driveline turn all the time is a 'good' idea?

cleatus12r Sun, July 31st, 2011 02:17 PM

The front driveshaft SHOULD NOT turn all of the time.

If the transfer case is shifting properly by going back to 2wd but the front axle shafts are still being driven by the front wheels, then the vacuum operated locking mechanisms in the hubs are not releasing. This is common for older trucks as the hub spline return is inhibited by sludge or gunk in the hubs....or the vacuum system check valve has failed and not allowing the vacuum to vent when 4wd is not selected. You would know in a hurry if the transfer case was still in 4wd mode...you couldn't drive on hard surfaces without the thing bucking like a saddle bronc in turns.

The reason for having a selectable locking hub is twofold. It allows high-speed on-the-fly switching to 4HI from 2wd and is a redundant system in case of vacuum actuation system failure.

ChrisCNC Sun, July 31st, 2011 04:08 PM

Thank you for the information, I'll be making an appointment for the truck on monday.

-Kevin

screagle07 Mon, August 1st, 2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisCNC (Post 50150)
Thank you for the information, I'll be making an appointment for the truck on monday.

-Kevin

Save your money and put in a set of Warn Premium Hubs. Block off the vacuum lines and never worry about it again. I have an '02 F250 with the same setup and the auto hubs can/are a pita. The stealership will probably want to change out the whole assembly and it gets pricey. If you want the auto hubs and know your way around the shop a little, search guzzles psd.
He has some great prices and excellent write-ups for this and alot of repairs for your truck.

ChrisCNC Thu, August 4th, 2011 04:30 PM

Thanks for the info guys. Cody was right, the front hubs were a little 'Sticky'. One was engaged and one wasn't, doesn't help that I couldn't tell which way was 'free' and which way was 'lock' since all the high quality lettering has worn off. The manual was backward (really, my wife confirmed it!) so even when I thought I was putting it into 'free' I was actually locking it. Anyway, cost me nothing, but my local mechanic got a good chuckle, (c:

I would like to replace the super-duper stock plastic(or equivalent) hubs with the warn premiums at some point, I'll add that to the list! Hopefully they use raised/recessed lettering instead of just ink so I can tell a year from now which way they're supposed to go....


-K


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