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Well heres this

1. The remote starter is a viper- i put it in myself

2. The remote starter has a security bypass module that you program to bypass the security. (no key inside it) It would not work intermitent - it either works or it doesn't

3. Also this unit is not connected to the security of the car- so when using the vehicle key you are not going through the remote start at all. Because there are no wires that are cut that make it go through the remote system. So in essence it is pretty much disabled while starting the vehicle with the actual key.

4. F150online people have the same issue- you start the car in the morning run to the store- hop out and come back and it wont start until you try it 3 different times. Some say PCM flash- some say fuel pump- some say bad check value- some say injector..

5. As soon as its cranking- the truck feels like its trying to find the right cylinder and it feels like it lost power to try to keep running. Then the third time it sounds totally different and actually fires up.

6. Could be a flooded engine or something like that.

7. Or maybe i didnt wait on the "RUN" to prime the fuel pump enough before cranking it.

Either way its intermitent so taking it to the dealer is going to be hell...

PLus now my third brake light is leaking so im gonna have to take it in for that.

Plus my idle go erratic intermitent and also while driving sometimes i get a huge hesitation and wants to die and then 5 sec later it comes back to life- what gives???

The idle and starting and hesitation all happened before the remote starter...

Could it be my gryphon??????? I bought the edge used and then converted to gryphon???? do these go bad?????