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Old Mon, March 23rd, 2009, 03:35 PM
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Question Corey's "Lemming" quote

Okay Corey,

I am wanting to know do you hold something personal against those poor little animals? JK

What's the story behind the metaphorical quote in your signature? Must be for some good reason?

Yah, I know there are a lot of lemming type people out there but what the heck let's have fun with them before they plunge off that cliff!

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Hi Corey, I see you are back all over the forums. That must mean u r getting caught up, at least on your end. This is my first post via my new blackberry so I can't do smilies. Well I guess if I remembered the text for them I could. As for the lemmings. They are everywhere. Just look at the political threads on the net. Talk about spreading misinformation.
Anyway. If you remember I had already ordered a chip from the other tuner. 2 days later I discovered PHP. Quickly decided that Minotaur was exactly what I wanted. When I called the other tuner. To ask if I could write my own tunes to go on the open slots on his chip he said no they are locked out and only they can program them. So that chip got returned unopened. They were good about the return and got prompt refund.
So that's how I ended up with the whole package from PHP. I am glad I discovered you guys just in time. Plus I read the other tuner's about us page and it doesn't even come close to Bill. He basically had no automotive or computer calibration experience prior to 2003. What he did learn he learnd from Bill and now acts as its some kind of top secret thing he invented. I have been impressed by Bill's willingness to share what he knows with us.
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Guess I never heard about the hubbub.

I pretty much limit my forum going to here and ford truck fanatics. (OH and facebook...hello Mafia friend )

Sorry to hear there is some manure being spread around. I for one have been happy with PHP's service and products.

There were some accusations from the webrats (yeah that's what I call the folks that carry disease around the internet)when my motor blew that it was due to the fact that I had a programmer but that was never my assumption and was obviously wrong. Too many people making decisions and comments that don't want/have/care to have all the facts of a particular instance.

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The issue was with the diesel engines not gassers.. It wasn't even a hot tune from what I understand and being you cannot access the files and look there is no knowing what the issue was. I don't know enough about the specific problems to know if it was the tune or other factors though... probably a contributing factor at minimum .... guess u could search the FTE or Powerstroke forums and find plenty of posts on it. Lemmings could go both ways... everyone who blows their engine with that tuner's chip automatically blames the tuner.......

My guess though is probably a timing and fuel combination issue... if combustion starts too early (gas or diesel) you are pushing the piston in the opposite direction its supposed to be turning... this is what octane prevents in gas engines. Thus you are going to snap a connecting rod and blow it out the side of the block.... being that the problems were specifically block windowing (a big hole in the engine block) occurring on multiple vehicles, you can look for a common denominator(s)....
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Hey Corey,

Thank you for explaining your lemming experience.

Hey DJ your thumbs sore yet from the bb?

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It was a good read, Corey!

I follow the lemmings that veer away from the cliff! (Some of them have to survive to produce more of the little buggers)!

The point about safety was one that concerned me a great deal before I got my Edge, that you guys converted to a Gryphon. I remember being thoroughly impressed by Bill's "reasoned" explanations in the f150Online forum of the tuning process and the results that could be expected. And then when I actually talked to the man, I was sold!

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