Custom Tune Installed

[DarrenWS6]

Well yesterday I loaded my custom 87 perf. file into the Gryphon. I cant believe how much lag is in the stock tune.. wow memories not missed . So generally speaking, is there any advice as for what to customize in uploading the tune? I was thinking of only raising the mph limiter, 5200rpm 1-2 gear and 2- gear shifts, 4800rpm 3-4, and 5600 rev limiter. Otherwise since I have a custom filed tune for my truck now it should be alright?

Very impressed with the gain in low end power, cant wait to go make a 0 - 60 run. Thank you Corey for the help in ordering and updating, and thank you Bill for the awesome tune .

[88Racing]

Congrats on getting your tunes!

I know some where around here Jack has posted his settings and over on f150online Bluejay has posted his also. I have yet to put different ones in mine.

Lars

[BlackSTX]

Glad to hear you liking it. I can't wait to get mine. I'm looking forward to getting some more bottom end out of it... heavy truck w/ only 3.55's and a 4.6L, not the best combination for getting off the line.

[Jackpine]

Darren, unless you know something I don't know (which is VERY possible), the HP and torque are dropping on our engines above 5000 RPM. If you look at your WOT shift points in the custom options menu, I think you'll find that Bill has set the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts near that RPM range. If so, I would not raise them. The 3-4 shift is likely to be lower, possibly around 4500? Again, I would not raise it. I tried raising mine and discovered it seemed to have trouble completing a WOT 3-4 shift, even though my max RPM was 5400.

I also wouldn't raise the max RPM much above 5400 because of TC ballooning, and I like to keep the stress off the transmission as much as possible.

I have my speed limiter set at 110 mph. Net because I really expect to drive that fast, but I DO NOT want it to ever kick in when I'm expecting more speed, as in passing.

[DarrenWS6]

Originally Posted by BlackSTX

Glad to hear you liking it. I can't wait to get mine. I'm looking forward to getting some more bottom end out of it... heavy truck w/ only 3.55's and a 4.6L, not the best combination for getting off the line.

lol true. It will be a night and day difference.

Originally Posted by JackandJanet

Darren, unless you know something I don't know (which is VERY possible), the HP and torque are dropping on our engines above 5000 RPM. If you look at your WOT shift points in the custom options menu, I think you'll find that Bill has set the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts near that RPM range. If so, I would not raise them. The 3-4 shift is likely to be lower, possibly around 4500? Again, I would not raise it. I tried raising mine and discovered it seemed to have trouble completing a WOT 3-4 shift, even though my max RPM was 5400.

I also wouldn't raise the max RPM much above 5400 because of TC ballooning, and I like to keep the stress off the transmission as much as possible.

I have my speed limiter set at 110 mph. Net because I really expect to drive that fast, but I DO NOT want it to ever kick in when I'm expecting more speed, as in passing.

I have never heard of those factors before, but glad you mentioned it to me. Thank you Jack. Well so far it sounds like there aren't any reasons to change the settings in the 87 performance tune. Timing and everything should be alright? And spark? ( never messed with spark btw, running stock plugs I really dont want to either ). I haven't gotten the chance to play with it on a back road yet so I dont really know what I would change it to. I'm pretty sure Bluejay is running the rpm sets I was, but he suggested me those when I was on canned level 3 with 93.

I have noticed my idle rpm in gear is pretty low. I believe I noticed this after I first ran the canned Level 3, but it went away. I assume that the 480rpm idle is safe for now and will return to mid 500 or so after new strategies are learned?

[stryker6040]

sounds sweet, i cant wait for mine to come in!

[Jackpine]

Originally Posted by DarrenWS6

lol true. It will be a night and day difference.




I have never heard of those factors before, but glad you mentioned it to me. Thank you Jack. Well so far it sounds like there aren't any reasons to change the settings in the 87 performance tune. Timing and everything should be alright? And spark? ( never messed with spark btw, running stock plugs I really dont want to either ). I haven't gotten the chance to play with it on a back road yet so I dont really know what I would change it to. I'm pretty sure Bluejay is running the rpm sets I was, but he suggested me those when I was on canned level 3 with 93.

I have noticed my idle rpm in gear is pretty low. I believe I noticed this after I first ran the canned Level 3, but it went away. I assume that the 480rpm idle is safe for now and will return to mid 500 or so after new strategies are learned?

I don't know about the idle going up after everything is "learned". Mine never idled that low at all. It's always been about 600 RPM (using the dashboard tach), and since it was smooth and things were charging and it didn't want to "creep" with my foot off the brake, I saw no reason to change it. But, 480 RPM IS pretty low. I wonder if it's enough to charge the battery at idle with the lights and accessories on? If not, I'd raise it. Most people have theirs in the 600-650 range.

I saw your post over on f150Online and was a bit puzzled by one member's statement that Bill said to have the max RPM 200 above the WOT shift points. Both Bluejay and I remember him saying 400 above. But, since Bill lives here, he can set us straight. I know 400 above works well for me except in the 3-4 shift, where it needs to be more (which is one reason I have my 3-4 shift down in the 4400-4500 range). When I had that shift point higher, I had to let off on the gas to help it through that shift.

The Edge manual does say put the max RPM 150 above the WOT shift points, but I think that's just plain wrong.

DO NOT raise the spark timing on any of your tunes unless you put in a higher octane gas than the tune was designed for.

Bluejay published the adjustments he did for when he was running canned Edge tunes. Once he got the custom tunes, he's left everything exactly as Bill has set it up except for the tires, he went to bigger ones after ordering his tunes.

- Jack

[Chris74]

Originally Posted by JackandJanet

Darren, unless you know something I don't know (which is VERY possible), the HP and torque are dropping on our engines above 5000 RPM. If you look at your WOT shift points in the custom options menu, I think you'll find that Bill has set the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts near that RPM range. If so, I would not raise them. The 3-4 shift is likely to be lower, possibly around 4500? Again, I would not raise it. I tried raising mine and discovered it seemed to have trouble completing a WOT 3-4 shift, even though my max RPM was 5400.

I also wouldn't raise the max RPM much above 5400 because of TC ballooning, and I like to keep the stress off the transmission as much as possible.

I have my speed limiter set at 110 mph. Net because I really expect to drive that fast, but I DO NOT want it to ever kick in when I'm expecting more speed, as in passing.

I've had my truck dynoed........and with my setup, I was still building power at 5000 rpm's.

My power actually topped out around the 5200 mark.......

[Jackpine]

Hi Chris - The 08's have a somewhat different power curve than earlier models. I think they DO drop off later. I know your engine can develop more power and torque than mine.

Regardless, I really think Bill will set the WOT shifts at the correct points to get you what you want. And, thinking about it a bit more, it makes sense to set the shift point somewhat past the peak HP and torque point because then the shift will bring in the next gear at a higher RPM setting, overall, giving you better acceleration (if WOT acceleration is your bag). This of course means the max RPM has to be set higher too, so that the shift can complete properly.

I DO want the acceleration, but I'm also interested in protecting the transmission, which I feel is a weak link in this truck. (Wish it was a manual).

- Jack