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Old Mon, November 23rd, 2009, 05:44 PM
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THINK before YOU change YOUR VEHICLE'S OIL Next Time!

Just ran across this over@ f150online.
"Also while running OASIS today on an 04 4.6 2v with a complaint of a startup rattle I ran across the latest SSM from FORD.21049 1997-2010 MULTIPLE VEHICLE - 4.6L/5.4L - ENGINE TICKING AND/OR RATTLE NOISE MULTIPLE VEHICLE LINES WITH 4.6L OR 5.4L ENGINE MAY EXPERIENCE AN ENGINE TICKING OR RATTLE NOISE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A STUCK TAPPET (HLA). THIS MAY BE DUE TO THE DETERIORATION OF AN AFTERMARKET OIL FILTER. VEHICLES WITH THIS CONDITION HAVE LOW OIL PRESSURE AT ONE CYLINDER HEAD ONLY, WHILE MAIN PRESSURES ARE NORMAL. DISLODGED MATERIAL FROM THE AFTERMARKET OIL FILTER BLOCKS THE CAM CAP OIL PASSAGE, EITHER AT CYLINDER #4 (RIGHT BANK REAR) OR CYLINDER #5 (LEFT BANK FRONT). FOR VCT EQUIPPED ENGINES, INSPECT THE VCT VALVE BODY AND THE OIL PASSAGES UNDER THE FIRST CAM CAP. DAMAGE TO ENGINES CAUSED BY AFTERMARKET OIL FILTERS ARE NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY.EFFECTIVE DATE: 10/22/2009"
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Here's the link:
http://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-...il-filter.html
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I wouldnt hold that to light. It would be just like us saying we wouldnt warranty something in the engine since they used a Fleetguard filter instead of a Cat filter. Don't think they can stand behind that.
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I would carefully consider my options due to the fact that I know of 2 warranty claims that were denied on damaged motors due to the wrong oil weight being used. Those people even went to court and lost their cases.
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Oil weight is one thing, brand is a different story. Say if company A said you had to use their oil and filters for warranty to be valid they they would either have to supply you with the parts to do the work or do the work themselves. I use MC FL 1995 filters because I can get them readily easy and cheap. I use Mobil Delvac 1300 Super because its what we used in our class 8 truck with good results. I change my oil every 5,000 miles or 6 months. I got roughly 4,000 miles on this change and you can pull the dipstick and still read the markings through the oil. I am in the process of hooking up a 92 gallon tank and will delete my fuel bowl and run a twin filter/water separator set up. The stock fuel filter is rated at 7 microns and my dual set up is a 10-2. I will also end up doing a bypass filter for the oil down to 2 micron.
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Lars, that's a great post!

I seem to remember Bill posting something about this a few months back. Same scenario - part of the oil filter came loose and clogged an oil passage.

I know it sounds like Ford wants you to be a slave to their service departments, but maybe, just maybe, there's a reason for it?

I ALWAYS used to change my own oil. I stopped doing it when it got to be a big hassle getting rid of the old stuff. I DO acknowledge though, that Ford charges quite a lot for this fairly simple service. At least my dealership does.

Chuck, I hear you, but I bet Ford would win if they claimed any aftermarket (non-Motorcraft) filter damaged your engine.

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