E-85 tune for gas engine?

PhqChevys · #1 Fri, July 31st, 2009, 10:14 PM

My '07 F-150 isn't E-85 like most '07's out there. But E-85 is really cheap where I live. Can you write a tune that will convert the truck to E-85, or is there sensors or other things that my truck is missing to make it a Flex Fuel truck?

***Power Hungry*** · #2 Sun, August 2nd, 2009, 01:29 AM

The calibration isn't set up to run as a "flex-fuel" type truck but we can do calibrations that will take advantage of the higher octane rating of E-85 fuel. With a slightly more aggressive timing curve and fuel mixture, they can run pretty well. Not as good as straight gasoline, but pretty close.

***Jackpine*** · #3 Sun, August 2nd, 2009, 08:35 AM

I'd be worried though about the effect of E85 on components. Aren't special materials used in flex fuel vehicles and doesn't Ford say NO to using E85 in a non-flex fuel truck?

- Jack

***Power Hungry*** · #4 Sun, August 2nd, 2009, 02:08 PM

In going through the parts lists on a FFV vs. a non-FFV, I'm hard pressed to find any difference in components. The service manager at one of our local Ford dealers also indicated to me that there isn't any significant difference in the builds of the vehicles or in replacement parts. Now this could mean that all replacement parts are FFV compatible while there are differences during manufacturing, or it could mean that there really isn't any difference.

The biggest concern is obviously going to be the fuel tank, fuel pump, and fuel lines, since the engines (including injectors) are identical. In investigating replacement components for these, I've not noticed any separation in part numbers for FFV and non-FFV vehicles.

I am continuing to investigate any possible differences in manufacturing and further validate my findings, but so far there doesn't seem to be any real reason why you can't run E85 in late model vehicles, so long as the tuning supports it.

PhqChevys · #5 Sat, August 8th, 2009, 10:58 AM

I talked with Ford while I was there yesterday. The service manager and the guy at the parts counter told me that the parts used between the FFV and Gas versions of the truck are the same. They said that Ford uses the same parts during assemble to simplify the assembly process, there was only 2 exceptions, the in tank fuel pump and the computer calibration. Besides that, the injectors, fuel rail, fuel lines, ect. are all the same. Now, like I said, this is just what they TOLD me, no other verification than that, I may be wrong, may be right...just passing on information...

***Jackpine*** · #6 Sat, August 8th, 2009, 12:56 PM

Sounds like it COULD be true, and if so, it supports those who say E85 can be run in any truck. Wonder what the fuel pump difference is though?

- Jack