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1983 to 1994˝ 7.3L and 6.9L IDI Got one of those old mechanical injected 7.3L or 6.9L trucks? This is the place for you!

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Old Wed, February 4th, 2009, 10:17 PM
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My cousin has a 7.3 IDI and likes it. It pulls really well, he just wants some more power. It already has an ATS turbo kit on it, even though it still doesn't sound like a modern powerstroke.

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Believe it or not, the ATS and Banks "Sidewinder" turbo'd IDI trucks would outpull a stock 1st gen. Powerstroke in the lower RPM ranges due to the higher compression ratio. It certainly is surprising how much difference it makes 'downgrading' to 17.5:1 compression ratio of the PSD vs. 21:1 of the IDI when there isn't any boost involved.
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Old Wed, February 4th, 2009, 10:41 PM
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Believe it or not, the ATS and Banks "Sidewinder" turbo'd IDI trucks would outpull a stock 1st gen. Powerstroke in the lower RPM ranges due to the higher compression ratio. It certainly is surprising how much difference it makes 'downgrading' to 17.5:1 compression ratio of the PSD vs. 21:1 of the IDI when there isn't any boost involved.
I have heard that the compression ratio in diesels makes a huge difference. I just don't know the exact statistics on this.
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The pup in the picture loves to ride, she doesn't stick her head out the window. I think her ears are kind of sensitive. She's an austrailian shepherd-border collie mix. One of her eye's are half blue-half brownn.

I've also heard stock vs. stock that a 7.3 IDI turbo will outwork the 7.3 Powerstroke by people who have driven both. The IDI is easier and cheaper to get a 'little' more out of it with the mechanical pump, but if your going for anything more than adjusting the spring limiting screw will do, the Powerstroke would be the way to go.
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I've also heard stock vs. stock that a 7.3 IDI turbo will outwork the 7.3 Powerstroke by people who have driven both. The IDI is easier and cheaper to get a 'little' more out of it with the mechanical pump, but if your going for anything more than adjusting the spring limiting screw will do, the Powerstroke would be the way to go.
I don't know if you're talking about the late 93 7.3L turbo (factory), but those are turds....and purposefully made so. Ford KNEW they had something up their sleeves (Powerstroke), so they had the 7.3L IDI turbo severely detuned as not to "outshine" their upcoming flagship truck.

The turbocharger on the early IDI turbo was very undersized for the engine. I think it would be a great charger for a 255 gasser (remember those atrocities? Think mid-eighties) so the "turbo" was actually more of a gimmick to get people to buy one....and at least stay up to date with the Dodges and their 4-year old Cummins. I won't even acknowledge the 6.5L GM boat anchor.

The turbo on the 7.3L was limited to 3-4 PSI of boost from the factory. But with the higher compression ratio, low end off-idle torque was significantly better than the upcoming PSD. However, being that Ford had life expectancy expectations of the "new" IDI turbo, gains were to be had by modification. However, the turbine housing was a huge restriction to exhaust flow and the compressor was grossly undersized. Usually heat was the only real winner when modifying one......as was blown turbochargers due to overspeeding and drive pressure issues.

I'll disagree on the "The IDI is easier and cheaper to get a 'little' more out of it with the mechanical pump" comment only because it takes little more than a ten cent resistor and 15 minutes to bring a PSD to life.
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One thing to keep in mind about the lower compression ratio... They sure are easier to start!
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One thing to keep in mind about the lower compression ratio... They sure are easier to start!
Yes they are. My cousin can't get his started in the winter if he forgets to plug it in.
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I'll stand corrected about the easier to mod, I completely forgot about the resistor mod. Probably because I haven't done it myself.
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