Canned or Custom when odering?

camptime · #1 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 01:14 AM

I am seriously considering purchase of Gryphon. I am wanting to know if I can buy the Gryphon with custom tunes already installed based on my truck info or do I have to receive it first and wait for tunes in the e-mail.
Did a quick search but did not really find my answer.

Thanks,
John

blackfx4ny · #2 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camptime

I am seriously considering purchase of Gryphon. I am wanting to know if I can buy the Gryphon with custom tunes already installed based on my truck info or do I have to receive it first and wait for tunes in the e-mail.
Did a quick search but did not really find my answer.

Thanks,
John

If you buy the Gryphon with the custom tunes installed you'll have to wait until the custom tunes get written before you'll receive it. You'd be better off with the canned tunes than with nothing until your custom tunes are written. Hope that helps for you.

***88Racing*** · #3 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camptime

I am seriously considering purchase of Gryphon. I am wanting to know if I can buy the Gryphon with custom tunes already installed based on my truck info or do I have to receive it first and wait for tunes in the e-mail.
Did a quick search but did not really find my answer.

Thanks,
John

What's the reasoning on why are you asking this?
I suppose it could be done like you ask but PHP would have to be the ones to make that call.

***Power Hungry*** · #4 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 12:17 PM

The only problem is that we have no idea what your calibration code is so we wouldn't be able to make you custom tunes up front. The ONLY way out of that is if you happen to go to the dealer and they give you the current calibration in your PCM and you provide that to us.

camptime · #5 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 12:27 PM

OK. I think I need to do some more research here on this site.
I am not sure what the calibration code is or where to find it, or how you folks even go about getting it.
I also need to figure what the heck a hexkey is as well.
I just started looking around here in these forums so I will be doing the 'search' button a bit more to get some understanding of what needs to be done.

Thanks for the replies,
John

***88Racing*** · #6 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 12:52 PM

1. HEX CODE
2. HEXKEY
3. HEX CALIBRATION
4. PCM PROGRAMMING STRATEGY
And some other ones are all the same lingo.
The HEX stands for what version of Ford's software/firmware your truck's pcm is programmed with. Each HEX is used with specific trucks.
The HEX varies by year and model of truck and its options.
The HEX is a cornerstone for custom tunes if PHP doesn't have it they can't write the tunes for you.
You can go to a dealer and get it but they might have to hook up their computer to your truck's PCM in order to see your HEX code. They also may charge $20-$90 to do this. Sometimes if you look on your pcm there is a sticker with the code on it. But the only downside to this is if you bought the truck used and the previous owner had it reflashed and the dealer didn't put a new sticker on it. Which happens.

camptime · #7 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 04:20 PM

Got it. So it looks like I order the Gryphon first and then everything comes after that.
The programmer extracts the needed, correct code for programing.
The custom tunes if wanted are built from these codes stored in the ecm.
I also understand that Bill 'tweaks' the canned tunes in the Evo before he ships them out.

Alrighty then. Break out the plastic and let the fun begin!

John

***88Racing*** · #8 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 05:38 PM

The canned tunes that come on the gryphon when you get it are wrtten to cover a very wide range of these HEX codes basically a lot of trucks.
By far they are better than your stock calibration and some people just choose to use them.
They are:
1. Tranny only.
2. 87-89oct tow
3. 91-93oct performance.

The custom tunes are the best. Bill writes the tunes for you and your truck.
1. How you drive.
2. What you do with the truck.
3. How you use the truck.
4. How do you want the truck to perform.

There are these choices he will write for you:
87-89oct performance.
91-93oct performance.
87-89oct tow performance.
91-93oct tow performance.
And so on.

If you have the 5.4 3V you might expect some gains like these:
Up to 25hp running a 87-89 performance custom tune.
Up to 35hp running a 91- 93 performance tune. Of course these gains all will vary depending on your truck.
So there's some more info for you.

***88Racing*** · #9 Fri, December 18th, 2009, 05:59 PM

Go here to get your order form:http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...rder_Form.html
Click on "gryphon gasoline programmer".
Fill it out save it as a pdf and email it as an attachment or print it, fill it out and fax it.