Im a newbie to tuning

444smoker · #1 Sun, February 22nd, 2009, 02:10 AM

Hey everybody im wanting to get into tuning on my truck, I just finished building the motor in it and am going to get it broke in then turn my attention to tuning. Im running Jodys programing right now, but would like to be able to do my own programing, (nothing against jody great guy) How do you all like this software? Im thinking pretty seriously about buying the package just looking for a little input on it.

Robert

Corey Cohron RIP · #2 Sun, February 22nd, 2009, 08:52 AM

Hey Robert! Glad to see you over here!

Not sure if you saw this post over on FTE, but it's by Jim Rose and he gives his opinion of Bill's tuning. The reason it's appropriate here is because with Minotaur, you also get a complete set of Bill's base RDT files for your truck.

Welcome to the forum!

444smoker · #3 Sun, February 22nd, 2009, 09:45 AM

thanks Corey, One question would the base files that i get be set up for my big oil injectors and turbo to just get me into the ball park? Or would i be starting with a file thats a general tune for any stock OBS truck?

Robert

Corey Cohron RIP · #4 Sun, February 22nd, 2009, 09:51 AM

Ah, I love when I can answer questions like this.

The base RDT files you get are not customized to heavy mods like Injectors, Big Oil (dual HPOP), Large Single or Twin Turbos, Power Adders such as Nitrous, Propane, & Water/Meth Injection, and Modified Transmissions. Bill can write them for you, specifically, but there is a $50 charge for each one.

What some customers have opted for are the base RDT files and then one custom file from Bill -- like an 80hp or 100hp -- so that they can compare the files and see what's been changed. This certainly would keep your cost down, and it seems to be a good solution.

444smoker · #5 Sun, February 22nd, 2009, 10:05 PM

ahh i see that works then.

Robert

444smoker · #6 Wed, February 25th, 2009, 10:55 PM

with this software i can tune for my 96, question is can on of my friends buy a chip from you and we tune it with the same software? im sure we can i just dont know if you have to buy additional software for the differant pcm code that he has.

Robert

444smoker · #7 Wed, February 25th, 2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 444smoker

with this software i can tune for my 96, question is can on of my friends buy a chip from you and we tune it with the same software? im sure we can i just dont know if you have to buy additional software for the differant pcm code that he has.

Robert

I think i found the answer to my own question, $250 per RDT file (pcm code is what im understanding this to be).

Robert

***Power Hungry*** · #8 Thu, February 26th, 2009, 10:04 AM

I was reading what Corey had posted and I can see a place where there may be some confusion so I wanted to take a second a clarify.

The MDF files (which used to be RDT files) are not changed depending on whether you have modifications or not. They are what they are and are based on the vehicle's PCM family. What she was referring to was that when we send a definition file, we include some base calibrations along with it. These do not include tuning for injectors or any other major modifications. We can provide customized base files for an additional charge.

Other than that, you are correct. $250.00 will get you another definition file to use on a different family of vehicle.

Hope this helps.

John · #9 Thu, February 26th, 2009, 12:15 PM

Out of curiosity, how many MDF's are there?

***cleatus12r*** · #10 Thu, February 26th, 2009, 01:47 PM

There are dozens of .hex definitions....however, there are only about 8 that are worth having for 49-state applications. A few others for the California emissions models.

Take a look here....
http://www.thedieselstop.com/faq/949.../pcmcodes.php3
In the last column there is a "Template". Match the first 5 digits and separate them into groups....then count how many groups contain the same first 5 digits.

For example, AEB0, AEB1, 2, 3, and 4 are all DPC-461 computer codes. However, they each require a different RDT to properly make tuning adjustments because the "template" is different. In this case, it is common practice to use one RDT and corresponding base file to tune with. (I know, preposition at the end of the sentence is wrong!!) To make it more complicated, match the DPC-461 with any other DPC-461 and you can put an AEB3 tune in GDU0-4. As an example, it's common practice to use PMT1 in any DPC-422 PCM.