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Old Mon, October 19th, 2009, 09:59 AM
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Jack;
I have no problem whatsoever evaluating things we can see and quanitfy for ourselves. If it comes from some guy workring on a gov't. grant, or for a co., then I don't trust it. Sorry.
As I said, I agree that there is something going on. Is it simply the cyclic nature of weather or an actual disruption in the cyclic global climate patterns is what still remains unanswered, as is the cause, if it is indeed a disruption.
Humans simply have not been collecting accurate data long enough to know. In the 70's, when I was in high school, we were being taught that all indicators showed an ice age was enroute. In the 80's, when I was in college, we began to hear the opposite. One large volcanic eruption during any given measurment period also skewes the data, and Lord knows we have had a few of those in the past 30 years or so. Also, one must take a long, hard look at what impact the western civilizations can have on the problem (if any) by changing our lifestlyes, driving electric cars, etc, when it is clear that China and the developing 3rd world has absolutely no intention whatsoever to follow any plan put forth to control fossil fuels, etc. China is opening something like 1 new coal-fired power plant per week. China is also buying the Hummer line from GM...My mother was in China about 20 years ago, and returned recnetly for a short visit. She commented that bicycles seemed to outnumber cars ten to one on her first visit, and the ratio appears to have reversed!
Oh, and as much as I hate to do it to you, if you have not been in G.V. in the past 15 years or so, you will be disappointed with what has happened to our little town. Too many flatlanders moving in and wanting to flatlanderize the foothills. I have been here since '76, and think things started downhill when they built the McDonalds in Brunswick.

Bill, as far as conspiracies by corporate & gov't types to crush innovation so as to continue filling their own pockets, you bet I agree 100%.
Raging American greed has helped us get to where we are right now, and I don't just mean companies, either. Companies are run by people. When coupled with the,"get it all right now no matter what", attitude folks have these days it is a recipe for disaster. No morals, no responsibility, no respect for your neighbor or yourself. We lost our national identity during the 3 different decades I was working. I watched it happen. People do not take pride in themselves. People do not take pride in the way they raise their children; they are not teaching them the responsibility that goes with citizenship and the honor that goes with a hard days work done well to the best of one's ability.
There is not enough God in our lives; not enough humility.
The health of their country is not even on their radar. They take no responsibility for it, nor interest in it.
The federal gov't. has gone so far beyond the powers granted it by the Constitution it boggles my mind.
And here we are. Ripe for a socialist, power hungry federal gov't. to institute a complete silent revocation of our Constitution, while America is busy watching American Idol.
Sorry for the rant, folks. I am rather passionate in my love for this Country, and in my personal beliefs.
I spent my career having sworn an oath to protect the people of my community, and as my signature indicates, people I love are doing the same.
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