Gryphon for an '07 Expedition?

jimmyv13 · #1 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 11:32 AM

What's the over/under a Gryphon possibly being manipulated to work on an '07 Expedition? What is different about the 5.4L motor in the Expy and the 5.4L in the F150? I know the tranny is different, but what else?

OneTomcat · #2 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 05:34 PM

I think I read that Bill and Cory have an Expedition and are using a Gryphon with it. Not sure of the year they have but I suspect it can be done for yours.

jimmyv13 · #3 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 05:38 PM

I think they've got an 05 or 06...PHP advertises a Gryphon for an 05-06 Expy, but nothing seems to be available for an 07-up.

OneTomcat · #4 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 05:42 PM

Just read a little more re: Gryphon for '07 Expedition and although tunes can be written for them apparently the hardware will not support newer Expeditions. I have read that the SCT programmer (which PHP now carries) will work with the '07 and custom tunes can be written for it. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the gauges like the Gryphon.

jimmyv13 · #5 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 06:01 PM

Sorry, I should have been a little more specific...I meant nothing over the 06 with the Gryphon. I'd have to sell my Gryphon, might not be very easy since it has a cusotm tune on it, and pick up the SCT tuner.

OneTomcat · #6 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 07:46 PM

I believe the custom files can be removed and replaced with the stock Gryphon files by using the Pegasus software. Should be easy to sell and buyer can have custom files built for his truck if he wants.

***Jackpine*** · #7 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTomcat

I believe the custom files can be removed and replaced with the stock Gryphon files by using the Pegasus software. Should be easy to sell and buyer can have custom files built for his truck if he wants.

Correct again, OneTom!

You're going to find yourself on the "tech support" staff pretty soon, if you don't watch out! That, and $3.00 might get you a cup of coffee at a Starbucks.

- Jack

jimmyv13 · #8 Mon, September 21st, 2009, 11:09 PM

Well, the truck is gone and I'm a new owner of an '07 EB Expedition. I pulled the Gryphon out and set it back to stock, took a pic of the screen on zero to prove it.

I'll be putting this up for sale to cover some of the cost for the SCT.

I was quite surprised to feel the Expy pull away from the F150 with custom 87 perf tune entering the HWY. I wonder how it will feel with the SCT???

***88Racing*** · #9 Tue, September 22nd, 2009, 06:32 AM

FYI

The 07-09 expys were the predecessor to the 09 f150. Meaning they started using the same hardware as far as the dual pcms before the f150.
So what I am getting at here is once the gryphon for the 09 f150 comes out the one for the next generation expy's will follow.
Just like what happened with the last group of expys.
Why don't they offer a programmer right away for the expys? Because of market studies on who drives them and also them being more of a plush vehicle then a f150. Let's face it the f150 has more things you can mod on it and more of them on the market. Who would want to market a tuner to soccer moms!
No offense to the OP.

I think the expy is a great look'n ride.
Lars

jimmyv13 · #10 Tue, September 22nd, 2009, 08:38 AM

Thanks for the help, Lars. This was a lateral move in payment, but a huge increase in interior storage, which is what I need now with my family growing. I can still haul stuff, I just have to be a little more careful about what goes in the back and what goes in the trailer. The thing rides like a Caddy compared to my truck...(which I thought rode great for a truck). I'm really liking it so far, plus the wife is happy.

I honestly don't care which programmer I get as long as it comes from PHP...these guys(Corey included

)rock!!!