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Upgrade your Evo Upgrade your Edge Evolution to a Gryphon Programmer to allow for custom tuning and additional functionality.

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Old Tue, October 13th, 2009, 04:37 PM
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Hey all, great forum. I have several questions. If this is too many just ignore. I have spent some time reading FAQ's etc on this website. I have a used evo i bought on ebay from a reputable seller, along with all the cables, manual, housing etc. I have never installed it into my truck yet. Its labelled eeF2400, ver. 7, Manufactured 8/1/2007.
My truck- Feb.2008 F150 Lariat Supercrew 5.4, 4x4, S&B CAI, Magnaflow catback SIDO, engine fan replaced with electric fan (1 MPG improvement).

1. is it just as good to upgrade this evo to a gryphon, or is it best if i just sell this evo and buy a new gryphon ie - any shortcomings to upgrading this? cheaper?
2. I am also interested in 2 or 3 custom tunes. Cant you load the custom tunes onto the gryphon *before* you ship it out? why do i need to download them after i receive the gryphon in the mail? (save me the trouble please).
3. do i send the hexcode with the evo now or ... what? how do i obtain the hex?
4. does it matter if my truck has been reflashed? i'm not sure if it has but can find out. There is a deadspot (2-3 second lag) in my tranny at 28mph, there is a dealer TSB to fix (reflash i think). Does it matter if i get this done at dealer.. or should I in fact NOT get it done and wait to see if the gryphon takes care of it. I ask because reading these forums it sounds like there are some kind of issues related to dealer reflashes.
5. my truck is E85 (yellow gascap) is this important to the discussion?
6. overall, how stable and reliable are these gryphons? i seem to read alot of highly satisfied customers on this website, but also a certain percentage of issues... some related to 2008 F150 models, some to do with reflash/dealer issues, and some other assorted performance issues (which also seem to always be resolved by PHP i note). Is it fair to say the gryphon has been constantly refined and improved to a point where its highly reliable now?

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1. Send it in to get upgraded.
2. The tunes will be on the gryphon when you get it back.
3. Follow Jacks faq to get hex code.
4. NO
5. Bill will need to know and also if you want an e85 tune.
6. Very reliable.

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1. Send it in to get upgraded. - great
2. The tunes will be on the gryphon when you get it back. - exellent
3. Follow Jacks faq to get hex code. - will do
4. NO - hmm, seems to be alot of discussion on this point? That simple really?
5. Bill will need to know and also if you want an e85 tune. - ok
6. Very reliable. - good

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Sorry I was a little short with the answers last night. Here's a link to get serial and hex code:http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...ead.php?t=1389

First of all make sure the edge has the latest firmware before hooking it up to your truck. Goto edges website and follow instructions.
The upgraded version you will get back from PHP will be in a black case instead of grey, have php firmware on it and your custom tunes.
As far as point #4 I don't know a thing about the TSB for a throttle dead spot. If you do need a reflash do it before you order and send anything in. Each reflash will possibly give your truck a new hex code. But if in any case if a reflash is needed after you get the custom tunes it can be done but then the tunes need to be recalibrated to the new hex. Sometimes reflashing the trucks pcm can make the problem worse before it makes it better.

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ballisticmike, Lars really did pretty much cover everything.

I'll add that if there IS a TSB out regarding a reflash, if it were me, I'd have it done right now. Then, use the Edge to check your HEX code. The tunes will be built for the program that's in the PCM AFTER the flash this way.

While Lars is correct that sometimes a dealer reflash causes other problems, I suspect by now they would have corrected any new problems that occur.

You DO want to tell Bill that the truck is E85 capable, and you need to tell Bill if you plan to use that stuff.

And finally, unless you can get a fantastic price by selling your Edge, it's probably cheaper to just have it converted. I have one of the "early" conversions, and mine has never given me a bit of trouble (but it has made my truck a whole lot better and more economical to drive)!

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thanks very much gentlemen I'm hoping to get my truck ready for the upcoming snowboarding season, and getting setup with custom tunes is a top priority
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Mike,

Give us a shout before you send the unit in. If you'd like, PM me your number and we'll give you a shout. This way we can answer any questions you've got.

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i had the dealer reflash my truck a few days ago, and it fixed the "transmission flare" as the TSB calls it. The mechanic apparently reflashed then had to drive the vehicle to complete the calibration..

Anyway, today i pulled the hexcode and emailed my order/profile in to PHP

Im lookin forward to better acceleration and more power, but REALLY lookin forward to improved shifting.
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Good - You've done it the right way! I think you're going to be happy with the outcome.

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Congrats on doing the upgrade!

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