[bcriss]

I gota say this forum is great !! Keep getting replies and info back. I really appreciate all the help !!! O.k. back to business... On the new CS, the only shift points there are is what im assuming is part throttle shift points because it just says (SHIFT PTS.) !! This is after going into the custom tune option. Im not seeing any "WOT shift points" in the menue !!! I know that the 1st Gryphon had this capibility but im shur not seeing it on the new CS. I spoke w/ Bill and he said that it should have this option and that mabe i just overlooked it but I've been through the whole entire thing several times and its not there !!! As always Im greatfull for all replies and help....!!

[Longshot270]

I looked in the Edge manual and I couldn't find anything about it. I guess all I can say is go through the menus again and see if you find it.

[JackandJanet]

Originally Posted by bcriss

I gota say this forum is great !! Keep getting replies and info back. I really appreciate all the help !!! O.k. back to business... On the new CS, the only shift points there are is what im assuming is part throttle shift points because it just says (SHIFT PTS.) !! This is after going into the custom tune option. Im not seeing any "WOT shift points" in the menue !!! I know that the 1st Gryphon had this capibility but im shur not seeing it on the new CS. I spoke w/ Bill and he said that it should have this option and that mabe i just overlooked it but I've been through the whole entire thing several times and its not there !!! As always Im greatfull for all replies and help....!!

Since this is a new platform, it's possible that (due to a programming oversight), the capability was left out. This is something that I'm sure will be fixed if it's the case, once the problem is reported to them.

I'll spend some time with my CTS later today and see if I can figure out the "secret" if there is one. Since they use the same manual, the approach to getting to WOT shifts should be the same.

I'll let you know what I find.

- Jack

[JackandJanet]

Bcriss, good on you for finding what appears to me to be a "bug" in the firmware in CS/CTS platforms. I'll be calling Edge Tech Support soon to discuss this with them.

There is, indeed, NO way to set WOT shift points in the CTS Custom Options menu. That choice does not exist. You can set the part throttle upshift/downshift points and, the part throttle TC lock/unlock points, and, the "shift firmness", but that's it for shift values.

This was interesting though! There is a "Rev Limit" adjustment and in the old Gryphon I think it always showed what Bill had programmed into the tune. But in my CTS, it showed 5175 as the default! This means, that if you do a WOT acceleration run, you are definitely going to hit the rev limiter unless you change it. I reset mine to 5500.

We could still hit the limiter though, depending on the WOT shift point values, which cannot be found.

Some added fun (88Racing mentioned this a while back): The Tire Size is now shown as diameter in inches, accurate to 1 tenth of an inch. My "default" value was 29.6, which is way small, so I reset it to 31.1 inches. My Gear Ratio was correct, but other people might find that wrong too. The speed limiter was set at 98 mph, I think. I raised it to 110. And, my message center on my dashboard was continuously reporting that I was in "limp home mode" while I was playing with the custom options!

When you are through with the custom options, you are told to turn the key to ON and touch the screen, but the key was ALREADY on! I touched the screen, was told to turn the key OFF, then back ON and the programming took place. It happened MUCH faster using the CTS than it ever did using the older Gryphon.

Once completed, there were no "codes" and the engine started normally.

- Jack

[bcriss]

Thank you for your investigations !!!! Please keep me informed w/ your findings???? I hope this is a fluke and it can be resolved if not i guess thats just one adjustment that we will not be able to adjust but i just can't see that being the case since this is an "upgraded version" of the original Gryphon !! (why would they leave out such an important and useful tool on purpose) ???

[cleatus12r]

Just an FYI, but Edge wanted to leave out important things like Injection Control Pressure, Injection Pressure Regulator command, and Injection Pulse Width data out of the CS/CTS for the 7.3L.......

I'll put another memo on the Mad Doctor's desk.

[JackandJanet]

I just got off the phone with Edge Tech Support. Very friendly guy. He wasn't a "Ford Expert", but was talking (via chatroom) with the Ford engineer that I think Bill worked with.

The engineer thinks the WOT shift adjustment should be present and had me download all my CTS files to them so he could investigate.

Edge is going to call me back on this when they figure out what's going on. I'm kind of surprised that there are only two of us right now that seem to notice this problem. I wonder if it's just a "fluke" in a few of the units?

It's terrible that Edge wanted to leave out those things on the diesel model. Hope someone (maybe Bill) convinced them to do otherwise!

- Jack

[cleatus12r]

Originally Posted by JackandJanet

I just got off the phone with Edge Tech Support. Very friendly guy. He wasn't a "Ford Expert", but was talking (via chatroom) with the Ford engineer that I think Bill worked with.

The engineer thinks the WOT shift adjustment should be present and had me download all my CTS files to them so he could investigate.

Edge is going to call me back on this when they figure out what's going on. I'm kind of surprised that there are only two of us right now that seem to notice this problem. I wonder if it's just a "fluke" in a few of the units?

It's terrible that Edge wanted to leave out those things on the diesel model. Hope someone (maybe Bill) convinced them to do otherwise!

- Jack

Bill DID convince them otherwise! HA HA.

Jack, see my last post in Bill's address thread. I'm trying!!

[Longshot270]

...wow. Maybe the two CTSs yall have were done on a monday morning or friday afternoon.

Thats pretty bad that you have no idea what the WOT shift points are set to. You would have to look at the top rev record while driving (or the tach if you have one) for each gear to figure out what they are set at. I bet they are all at 4800 (or 4800, 4600) since the limiter was 5175. Does it sound like the engine revs up as high as it does with the old settings?

Did both of you update? Do you think that these flukes are a result of the update? I'm sure we would have heard about this sooner if they came from the box that way.

[bcriss]

My CS came w/ the rev limiter set @ 5400 as the stock setting.. so the shift points wer probly around 5200 to 5300 !! the weird thing is is as I increased the shift points that are in the unit thats when i bumped the limiter ! (and when I say increased i mean just by a couple MPH)!! But I also can notice the part throttle shift points increased. So it seems that this adjustment is altering both WOT shifts and part throttle shifts to some extent !!! So after talking with bill he assured me i could set the rev limit to 5600. So I did that and havnt hit the limiter but after a WOT run through the gears I go back and look at the last recorded max RPM and its in the 5300 to 5500 range !! Hmmm... So im still puzzled ! So you would probly ask the question " why dont you just turn it back down in order to not spin the motor so high " O.k. but if I do that then it changes the part throttle points as well !! IM sorry if ive got yalls head spinning on this issue but it seems we have a deffinate problem here and im very appreciative w/ all of you guys and your responses !!! Hopefully we can figure it out !!! THANKS AGAIN..........