[ashron64]

Hello,
I just have a few questions. I am considering the Gryphon for my truck but I have just found the Phoenix. If I purchased the Phoenix with the 87 and 93 tow and the 87 and 93 performance, would the tunes be pretty much the same thing as with the Gryphon? In other words, are you getting pretty much the same things as far as performance with the two, just a screen and monitor with the Gryphon? Does the Phoenix take into consideration aftermarket mods including CAI, throttle body spacer, and exhaust? Thanks for your help!

[JackandJanet]

Originally Posted by ashron64

Hello,
I just have a few questions. I am considering the Gryphon for my truck but I have just found the Phoenix. If I purchased the Phoenix with the 87 and 93 tow and the 87 and 93 performance, would the tunes be pretty much the same thing as with the Gryphon? In other words, are you getting pretty much the same things as far as performance with the two, just a screen and monitor with the Gryphon? Does the Phoenix take into consideration aftermarket mods including CAI, throttle body spacer, and exhaust? Thanks for your help!

The tunes are probably quite similar.

But, do yourself a favor and ditch the Throttle Body Spacer (unless your truck has a carburetor - not fuel injected). The spacer does nothing for a modern vehicle except add a bit of weight.

A custom tune from any source can certainly account for the CAI (if the tuner knows what he's doing - as Bill does).

If your exhaust mods are "cat back", they're mostly for sound and looks and need no special tuning. But, if you have mods like long tube headers or an "X" or "H" pipe, that's a different matter.

(And please don't double post - I deleted the thread on this subject in the Phoenix forum.)

- Jack

[ashron64]

So does the Phoenix control all the same parameters as the gryphon such as WOT fuel, timing, ect? Also, how does the phoenix mount? Is it similiar to a toggle switch with 6 positions that you mount in the cab? Thanks for all of your help.

[Longshot270]

Yes, the tunes are very similar and it mounts like a regular switch. You also have the ability to change tunes without stopping and reprogramming.

[ashron64]

Hm...It looks like the phoenix is going to be a much more cost effective option for me. If I decided to order, I understand that there is a period of waiting time for the custom tunes to be written...is that 4 weeks? Also, would I pay at the time of the order or when the order is shipped? Thanks so much for all of your help!

[Longshot270]

It would probably 4-8 depending on how busy things are but I'm not really sure on the chips. You would also pay at the time of the order.