[gogriz2009]

Looking to buy my first chip. It seems after researching since may that I have found what I want. I was just wondering if you guys could give me a heads up on any unsuspecting issues i could run into. also any help with the ordering would be apprecited. I guess I should tell you I am putting this in a 02 excursion. Thanks for the help.

[cleatus12r]

The only real issue we have with the Phoenix on Excursions is the PATS anti-theft system. Without being able to read the Vehicle ID block from the PCM, we have no way of enabling the PATS system with a chip.

We can either program a chip and you live without PATS (the "Theft" light will flash unless you unplug the PATS module...no big deal) or you can send us the PCM, we'll read it, then make programs using your original VID block. We don't like disabling the anti-theft system if we can help it, so we prefer you ship us the PCM.

[gogriz2009]

So bypassing the pats would mean what exactly. Just no alarm? The wife drives this rig so how would you unplug the pats. i know she wouldn't want any flashing lights. I can't ship the pcm to you as it is the kid hauler right now. Thanks for the help.

[gogriz2009]

By the way---where is reed point? I am in Florence just below Missoula. Small world.

[cleatus12r]

I figured by your user name that you were from Montana.

Go CATS!! HA HA

By disabling the PATS system, the vehicle will start even if the ignition lock cylinder is broken into and turned with a screwdriver....it's just an anti-theft system. The PATS system will keep the engine from starting unless the correct key is used.


I am currently in Georgia working for PHP doing 7.3L tuning. I'll be going back home in September for the winter. Reed Point is about 60 miles west of Billings on I-90.

[MtPaul401]

Go Cats

Man, and here I was telling people how helpful and knowledgeable you were.

[HuckA1A]

Originally Posted by cleatus12r

I figured by your user name that you were from Montana.

Go CATS!! HA HA

By disabling the PATS system, the vehicle will start even if the ignition lock cylinder is broken into and turned with a screwdriver....it's just an anti-theft system. The PATS system will keep the engine from starting unless the correct key is used.


I am currently in Georgia working for PHP doing 7.3L tuning. I'll be going back home in September for the winter. Reed Point is about 60 miles west of Billings on I-90.

I don't believe that Bill and Corey will let you leave.

[Robert6401]

Originally Posted by HuckA1A

I don't believe that Bill and Corey will let you leave.

My thoughts EXACTLY!

[cleatus12r]

I have to go back for the winter or my pipes will freeze. The only heat I have is wood and I have to be there to babysit the huge insert fireplace and one small stove.

I'll be back next spring.

Oh and about the Cat/Griz thing....I don't like sports anyway and don't pay any attention. I thought I would just get a good razzin' out of you.

[gogriz2009]

I think i can afford to bypass it in big sky countryIt would be nearly impossible for me to ship you the pcm from my wifes baby. is there something else you would recommend to me other than the phoenix? I really liked the on the fly capabilities?