[Demo250]

Yes, another 6 speed thread. Pretty sure I got most stuff figured out, just have a few questions.

Truck setup is in my sig.

Thinking of doing something like this:
1. Stock
2. High Idle 1200 combined with 65 Tow
3. 100 Performance
4. 120 Race
5. Smoke
6. No Start

Ok, so questions:
It looks like a blank phoenix chip costs 250 with each added tune costing an additional $25. Does the high idle with 65 tow actually cost $50? Or is it still the standard $25?

High idle does work with the 6 speeds right? I'm assuming it just requires the parking brake to be applied in order for it to idle up.

It seems us 6 speed guys skip the DD and go right to the performance tunes. Is the 100 a decent daily tune or should I be looking more into an 80 performance tune?

Thanks guys!

[cj45lc]

IDK about the high idle-65 tow deal, but yes I believe the park brake is set to let the high idle work.
I believe the 100perf & 120race are pretty much the same with stock oil & inj. but someone will come along that knows alot more than me.

[catman2]

I don't have a Pheonix...yet but what I'm reading on another forum is the 80DD is the bomb. Not only good power but great mileage, some 2-2.5 gains.
I'd forego the 120 for that.

[Demo250]

Okay, one question down. Thanks for the info on the parking brake - high idle situation!

As for the daily driver option - the only reason I didn't consider it is because most guys with the 6 speed are saying a lot of the tune is dedicated to shift points... which means it suits an automatic better. Any guys with a 6 speed that have first hand comparisons between the performance and DD settings? If you have a 6 speed and could only pick one tune for daily driving, what one would it be?

Price question still open for anyone in the know.

Thanks for the info so far guys!

[cj45lc]

Originally Posted by Demo250

Okay, one question down. Thanks for the info on the parking brake - high idle situation!

As for the daily driver option - the only reason I didn't consider it is because most guys with the 6 speed are saying a lot of the tune is dedicated to shift points... which means it suits an automatic better. Any guys with a 6 speed that have first hand comparisons between the performance and DD settings? If you have a 6 speed and could only pick one tune for daily driving, what one would it be?

Price question still open for anyone in the know.

Thanks for the info so far guys!

I'm pretty sure you are right about the dd & the auto, seems like most folks with the 6 speed use a performance tune for dd. I'm just going by what I've heard

[Demo250]

Originally Posted by cj45lc

I'm pretty sure you are right about the dd & the auto, seems like most folks with the 6 speed use a performance tune for dd. I'm just going by what I've heard

Yeah, I'm thinking I will go that route too. Now I'm just wondering if I'd be happier with an 80 performance as my daily. Hmmm

Still the price question: Surely someone must have ordered a combo tune before? Bill, Cody, Corey, someone, anyone?

[Tholt34]

You don't have to have the parking brake set for the high idle tune on the chip to work. Its a good ideal to have the parking brake set but you don't have to. I don't mind the 80DD tune now. I use to not like it b/c it felt a little bit dead when you took off. The 100 performance is a good daily driver tune. It gets good mileage and has a good pedal feel.

[Demo250]

Originally Posted by Tholt34

You don't have to have the parking brake set for the high idle tune on the chip to work. Its a good ideal to have the parking brake set but you don't have to. I don't mind the 80DD tune now. I use to not like it b/c it felt a little bit dead when you took off. The 100 performance is a good daily driver tune. It gets good mileage and has a good pedal feel.

Thanks for the info. The whole thing I'm looking for in a daily driver tune is more low end response. Once I'm up to speed and cruising along down the highway even the stock power is decent.... 0-2000 RPM is pretty dead though. So now, anyone with opinions on 80 Performance vs 100 Performance for a Daily?

And still the price question on combining the high idle with another tune???

[RacerBowie]

The DD versus Performance versus Race tune question was what I was hoping to find out as well when I posted a while back... so I'm sitting here waiting anxiously!

It seems like people are saying mostly "it's all in the shift points" which kind of makes sense... but not 100%.

I'd love to hear something like "the race tunes give more fuel down low" or "the DD tunes are leaner at part throttle, making them get better highway mileage" or something. Anything, really. Maybe there are so few of us who shift our own gears that it doesn't really matter?

[907DAVE]

Typically the "economy" type of programs use slightly higher ICP and a touch more timing in the cruising ranges then a "race" tune will. The higher ICP and injection timing will increase mileage as this produces a cleaner burn. Obviously, the shift strategy's will be adjusted for the different fueling rates.