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AZStang Fri, August 21st, 2009 09:47 AM

Thanks guys. I like the way the trans shifts now and I definitely don't want it to shift any harder. I also want to make sure it lasts.

I'm not all that informed about the chips out there, but any chance the :disbelief: DP-Tuner gauge switch would work with the TS chip? Do you think the knob you offer would fit inside of a ±2" gauge opening? Not sure how :cool: that would look though.

Curious too about if I get the chip and the trans doesn't shift to my liking. Am I just out of luck or can I send it back for modification?

Thanks,
Shawn

Power Hungry Fri, August 21st, 2009 11:59 AM

We've been asked about the switch a few times. Unfortunately, it doesn't control the same way the rotary knob does. We're looking at possibly getting some gauge "shells" made which would allow the relocation of the switch to the pillar pod.

As for updates, you just send the chip back in for any tweaks. We also off the burner in the FU package which means you can make immediate changes to your files instead of sending the chip back in. :D

AZStang Fri, August 21st, 2009 03:42 PM

Thank you Bill. I've never driven a truck with a chip before so I am not even sure I would like the push buttons over a knob anyway. In fact, the rotary knob may be easier to use. Just need to decide where I could mount it though.
Does the rotary switch come with a sticker or numbered mounting plate to show what setting number it is on?

Thanks,
Shawn

cleatus12r Fri, August 21st, 2009 04:53 PM

I make my own brackets that mount below the dash or in the cubby hole since I hate drilling holes in dash panels.

As for the numbered stickers, you might be able to get small numbered stickers that you can affix to the switch plate.

Power Hungry Fri, August 21st, 2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cleatus12r (Post 14275)
I make my own brackets that mount below the dash or in the cubby hole since I hate drilling holes in dash panels.

As for the numbered stickers, you might be able to get small numbered stickers that you can affix to the switch plate.

Got any brackets for sale? We can pay you in Gameroom cash... :smiley_roll1:

cleatus12r Fri, August 21st, 2009 10:08 PM

I don't need you to hand out your dirty gameroom cash....Roulette pays pretty good. :hehe:

Besides, they're nothing special. They are 1" x 1/8" angle painted interior color with fancy rounded corners. I painted hash marks at every chip setting on one of them.

AZStang Sat, August 22nd, 2009 12:10 AM

Just a few more questions, I promise.

1. The order form says that the 25hp Tow is for towing extremely heavy, and the 40hp Tow is for heavy towing. If I never tow over 6,000 lbs, why would I need these tunes? Is this order form written more for guys with the monster injectors, big HPOP, and a big turbo?

2. What difference would I see between the 25hp Tow and 40hp Tow?

3. What would be the difference between the 65hp Performance tune and the 65hp Daily Driver? Would one use more fuel than the other?

4. What would happen if I tried the 100hp Performance tune?

5. I don't want much smoke, will the 65hp Performance tune cause a lot of smoke?

6. I currently roll the truck down to the end of the driveway in neutral before I start it so I don't wake the kids. How much quieter is the Whisper Mode?

Thanks,
Shawn

cleatus12r Sat, August 22nd, 2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AZStang (Post 14291)
Just a few more questions, I promise.

1. The order form says that the 25hp Tow is for towing extremely heavy, and the 40hp Tow is for heavy towing. If I never tow over 6,000 lbs, why would I need these tunes? Is this order form written more for guys with the monster injectors, big HPOP, and a big turbo? I use a 25-30 HP towing tune all the time, even while towing less than 6-8K lbs. It's just to ensure that my wife or I don't HAVE to "drive by the pyrometer". Besides, we drive in an area in which we frequently have high headwinds (40-50 MPH) while driving. It's nice to be able to maintain 2000 RPM while towing and never exceed 1100 degrees. The moral of the story.......I don't base HP on weight only. A 4K lb. camper gets really heavy while driving into a 40 MPH headwind.

2. What difference would I see between the 25hp Tow and 40hp Tow?In a nutshell, more power in the 40 HP program due to less of a worry about EGTs and the transmission.

3. What would be the difference between the 65hp Performance tune and the 65hp Daily Driver? Would one use more fuel than the other?Bill will have to answer that one because I don't have them to compare.

4. What would happen if I tried the 100hp Performance tune? You would LOVE driving your truck. Every other tune would become mundane and boring while commuting to work.

5. I don't want much smoke, will the 65hp Performance tune cause a lot of smoke? I wouldn't think so. Besides, with the tunes of Bill's that I have tried, it takes slightly more pedal to hit the "aggressive" point in the fuel curves. If you TRY to smoke, you will smoke (not a whole lot with a 65 HP program anyway) because it takes more accelerator pedal input to get smoke. With other brands of tuning I have used, it can be hard to not smoke even while taking off normally.

6. I currently roll the truck down to the end of the driveway in neutral before I start it so I don't wake the kids. How much quieter is the Whisper Mode?Bill, please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't have any Whisper Mode tunes. However, I believe that the Whisper mode only works when the engine is warm. I am not sure about this though so Bill will have to give you a definite answer.

Thanks,
Shawn

I answered what I could.

soutthpaw Sun, August 23rd, 2009 11:20 AM

Unless you need the no start or if you have an extra slot on the chip, consider going with a Hi-Idle... nice if you are jump starting another truck, want better performance from A/C While Idling, running winch, large power inverter etc...

I set mine to 1200 RPM's as my alternator puts out the max 200A current at that RPM..
as your original question was about tune suggestions, that is my 2 Cents

Power Hungry Sun, August 23rd, 2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleatus12r (Post 14297)
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZStang (Post 14291)
Just a few more questions, I promise.

1. The order form says that the 25hp Tow is for towing extremely heavy, and the 40hp Tow is for heavy towing. If I never tow over 6,000 lbs, why would I need these tunes? Is this order form written more for guys with the monster injectors, big HPOP, and a big turbo? I use a 25-30 HP towing tune all the time, even while towing less than 6-8K lbs. It's just to ensure that my wife or I don't HAVE to "drive by the pyrometer". Besides, we drive in an area in which we frequently have high headwinds (40-50 MPH) while driving. It's nice to be able to maintain 2000 RPM while towing and never exceed 1100 degrees. The moral of the story.......I don't base HP on weight only. A 4K lb. camper gets really heavy while driving into a 40 MPH headwind.

2. What difference would I see between the 25hp Tow and 40hp Tow?In a nutshell, more power in the 40 HP program due to less of a worry about EGTs and the transmission.

3. What would be the difference between the 65hp Performance tune and the 65hp Daily Driver? Would one use more fuel than the other?Bill will have to answer that one because I don't have them to compare.

4. What would happen if I tried the 100hp Performance tune? You would LOVE driving your truck. Every other tune would become mundane and boring while commuting to work.

5. I don't want much smoke, will the 65hp Performance tune cause a lot of smoke? I wouldn't think so. Besides, with the tunes of Bill's that I have tried, it takes slightly more pedal to hit the "aggressive" point in the fuel curves. If you TRY to smoke, you will smoke (not a whole lot with a 65 HP program anyway) because it takes more accelerator pedal input to get smoke. With other brands of tuning I have used, it can be hard to not smoke even while taking off normally.

6. I currently roll the truck down to the end of the driveway in neutral before I start it so I don't wake the kids. How much quieter is the Whisper Mode?Bill, please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't have any Whisper Mode tunes. However, I believe that the Whisper mode only works when the engine is warm. I am not sure about this though so Bill will have to give you a definite answer.

Thanks,
Shawn

I answered what I could.

Thanks Cody. :)

To answer 3, the biggest difference between the Tow and Performance is the aggressiveness of the low to mid throttle pedal. Performance is going to be a little snappier at mid throttle while tow is a little calmer through mid throttle. Low boost fueling is also less aggressive on the towing tune in order to help keep the trailer a little cleaner. Finally, the shift strategies are a bit different with low to mid throttle shifts raised a bit to keep RPMs up and subsequently keep boost up.

For question 6, whisper mode uses timing changes to in order to help quiet the engine noise down. The problem with using this to method is that it destabilizes cold idle, making it relatively useless until the engine is warm. Unfortunately, it looks like you may end up having to the keep rolling to the end of the driveway...


Take care.


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