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cleatus12r Fri, December 18th, 2009 02:14 PM

Thank you for clearing that up Bill. I was drowning. :confused:

Georgia Diesel Fri, December 18th, 2009 06:05 PM

O but bill,,,what a sweet sounding lope you can make a 6 liter do.:drool2:

Power Hungry Fri, December 18th, 2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Georgia Diesel (Post 20428)
O but bill,,,what a sweet sounding lope you can make a 6 liter do.:drool2:

:disbelief:Hee hee!

907DAVE Sat, December 19th, 2009 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cleatus12r (Post 20322)
Substantially increased ICP @ idle. This will usually cause a rough idle with an intermittent "hits and misses" type of idle.


A little off subject but this post got me thinking:doh:, I have experienced a rough idle with my single shots since I installed them and the only way I was able to smooth them out was to drop the ICP at idle to the mid 400's(normally mid 500's). This just about completely cured my issues but, was it the lower ICP that smoothed it out or was the SOI slightly retarded indirectly?

What changes indirectly when you drop or raise ICP at idle?

What happens if you have too much PW at idle, or is this even possible?

Power Hungry Sat, December 19th, 2009 08:40 AM

Single shots always run a bit lower ICP at idle... usually about 3 MPa, vs 3.8 MPa for splits. I'd suspect that's what helped. The timing is usually negligible. At 700 RPM, the crank is rotating 4.2º per ms. On average, the difference between singles and splits is .3 ms (.8 for singles vs. 1.1 for splits) so the total timing difference at idle would be 1.26 degrees. Not really much in the grand scheme of things. There is also a modest change in the combustion point because of the raised ICP, but again, it's not anything significant at idle.

I suspect the rough idle was mostly from slight overfueling or an imbalance when trying to run relatively small pulsewidth values, which can often happen when ICP gets too high and the PCM is trying to cut back fuel to maintain idle speed.

Fuel pulsewidth and SOI are both DIRECTLY affect by changes in ICP. More to the point though, SOC (Start of Combustion) is affected in relation to ICP changes.

Too much pulsewidth causes an unstable idle. You can't really run a diesel lean or rich, it just makes power with the fuel you've got. More fuel and the RPMs climb. That's about it.


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