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ChuckD Fri, January 22nd, 2010 01:44 PM

E85
 
Anybody run it in your gasser? If so whats your opinion.

Jackpine Fri, January 22nd, 2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuckD (Post 23428)
Anybody run it in your gasser? If so whats your opinion.

I don't think you want to use it on either of your two vehicles, Chuck. That stuff is hard on seals that weren't designed for it.

- Jack

ChuckD Fri, January 22nd, 2010 05:47 PM

Nope it wont work in a diesel. In 95 it was mandated thtat the fuel system are to be ethanol compliant. The issue is how the computer system reads the ethanol compaired to gas. There is a kit out there to replace the O2 sensor and has a microprocessor that works with the ECM is supposed to do the adjusting just as if you ran normal gas.

majek5 Fri, January 22nd, 2010 07:30 PM

My father in law has a Tahoe with the E85 engine. With E85 he gets about 10% worse mileage and has less power. Sounds like a winner! :doh: When the price is way less he will use it. Has not been like that for some time around here.

cleatus12r Fri, January 22nd, 2010 07:40 PM

That's the big problem. Ethanol is another one of those "warm and fuzzy" scams that make people feel like they're doing "their part" in protecting the planet when they're only really creating other problems elsewhere when it drives up the operating costs of other industries (corn comes in handy for livestock feed).

A couple other prime examples of current "false economy" in the transportation world:

Hybrids (cost to manufacture as well as chemicals/processes for hazardous waste)
DPF on diesels (yeah, burn more fuel just so people don't see smoke...makes sense)

People who get wrapped up in protecting the planet never really see the big picture but seem to look for the atta-boys (smug) to justify their means.

88Racing Fri, January 22nd, 2010 11:25 PM

The vehicle has to be rated for it.
Such as FFV.
Those systems use different rubber compound in their seals.
Parts such as o-rings are the most subseptable to damage if not rated for the E85.
The bigger the motor and vehicle the more it takes to run down the road.

ChuckD Sat, January 23rd, 2010 02:00 AM

The price is what I was looking at. Its about 40 cents cheaper at this place down the road. But I would have to run alot of fuel to pay for the conversion. I know of a couple guys running it in their turbo'd mustangs but they are built. I was also kinda wondering if it would smell like corn like bio smells like french fries.:hehe:

907DAVE Sat, January 23rd, 2010 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cleatus12r (Post 23455)
A couple other prime examples of current "false economy" in the transportation world:

Hybrids (cost to manufacture as well as chemicals/processes for hazardous waste)
DPF on diesels (yeah, burn more fuel just so people don't see smoke...makes sense)

People who get wrapped up in protecting the planet never really see the big picture but seem to look for the atta-boys (smug) to justify their means.

VERY well said!

The EPA has admitted that the DPF was counterproductive, but was the best thing "at the time". Hopefully Urea injection will be the answer they are looking for, just no sure how well it will preform in sub-zero temps. Time will tell.

soutthpaw Sat, January 23rd, 2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 907dave (Post 23482)
VERY well said!

The EPA has admitted that the DPF was counterproductive, but was the best thing "at the time". Hopefully Urea injection will be the answer they are looking for, just no sure how well it will preform in sub-zero temps. Time will tell.

And we will all be peeing in our fuel tanks to refill Urea systems

majek5 Thu, January 28th, 2010 02:31 PM

E85 also costs $1.25 to make $1.00 of fuel!:doh::doh::doh:

soutthpaw Thu, January 28th, 2010 07:08 PM

I like your avatar... Though cummins are great engines, just that they ended up in Fia....I mean Dodges... you can get a Cummins in the medium duty Ford truck line by the way....
Oh I read that Fiat is thinking of dropping the Dodge name on the trucks and just going with Ram Trucks....

907DAVE Thu, January 28th, 2010 10:30 PM

Have you seen the Fiat Panda yet?




http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...ry_1_big02.jpg





That bad boy is suppose to be America's new fad. Cant remember which Jeep models are being discontinued ( 3 or 4 of them), but this will be their replacement. SWEET:rolleyes:

88Racing Fri, January 29th, 2010 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 907dave (Post 23749)
Have you seen the Fiat Panda yet?




http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...ry_1_big02.jpg





That bad boy is suppose to be America's new fad. Cant remember which Jeep models are being discontinued ( 3 or 4 of them), but this will be their replacement. SWEET:rolleyes:

Um.......Er........Ew!
It does look like a panda? Kinda?

Longshot270 Sat, January 30th, 2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 907dave (Post 23749)
Have you seen the Fiat Panda yet?

That bad boy is suppose to be America's new fad. Cant remember which Jeep models are being discontinued ( 3 or 4 of them), but this will be their replacement. SWEET:rolleyes:

Well they've already discontinued some of my favorites a while back, even though I do like some of the wranglers. I think they discontinued the commander.

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Originally Posted by 88Racing (Post 23768)
Um.......Er........Ew!
It does look like a panda? Kinda?

Haha your not the only one, I can see panda-istic designs. :hehe:

majek5 Sun, January 31st, 2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by soutthpaw (Post 23734)
I like your avatar... Though cummins are great engines, just that they ended up in Fia....I mean Dodges... you can get a Cummins in the medium duty Ford truck line by the way....
Oh I read that Fiat is thinking of dropping the Dodge name on the trucks and just going with Ram Trucks....

I agree the engine is good, it is just what Dodge wraps the engine with!:hehe:


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