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Looking for chip, so some questions...
I've been reading great things about PHP chips on the Powerstroke forums and have been thinking seriously about the phoenix 6 position chip. I need some info, since the chip thing is greek to me.
I have a late 99 F350 powerstroke with an automatic. Mods that came with the truck are: Banks big head turbo Banks stinger plus chip Banks transcommand 4" exhaust I added: diy Napa 6637 intake HPX crossover line This is my daily driver for work and I somtimes haul some heavy loads, up to 1800 lbs or so. I tow rarely, maybe 6 or 7 times a year just a camper, probably weighs under 5000 lbs. My questions are (possibly dumb but...): any problems from having the Banks chip in? can I just put the by pass plug in the trans command and call it good? I'm currently getting around 16 mpg around town, about 17 on the hwy, will I see gains with this chip? I'd like to get better, of course, if possible which is one reason I'm looking. I was looking at the available tunes and thinking about this setup with probably 4 settings for my budget: Stock or modified stock 80 hp light tow - I'm assuming that would work for hauling.. 65 or 80 daily driver maybe 80 or 100 hp performance which one of the last two work best on the highway? If it makes a difference, I live in Montana so have some mountain driving. Thanks for your help. |
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Thanks for the quick reply. I forgot to list my guages - I have Banks EGT and
Boost. Basically I want to make my truck run better, it runs good now but I want to get the most out of it. I'm especially interested in improving highway driving as much as possible. You know how it is here in MT, anywhere you go pretty much you're looking at 2-3 hours on the road. I was kinda leaning toward the 100 hp performance myself. I've never heard anyone say "Boy, I wish I had less power." :hehe: If I get a tow tune, what's the difference between the 65 and 80 hp? I'll have to look at the Banks website or Powerstroke forums and see if there's a write up on how to remove the transcommand module if that's an issue or possible issue. Thanks for your help! Oh, I live in the Bitterroot Valley. |
You're a fair distance away from me then. It's not hard in this state!
The only perceivable difference in the 65 and 80 HP tow programs is going to be the balls-out, foot-to-the-wood power. Oh, and the higher EGTs due to the increased fueling. |
If ya can make a trip (excuse) to see Cody and let him do some custom tuning for ya I think it will be well worth it for ya....
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I ain't dumb, just ignorant......
I'm looking at the order form and I don't know what some of the abbreviations are or where to find some of the info....I'm still fairly new to the diesel world so don't have a lot of background here....
where do I measure my exhaust down pipe to get the proper diameter? what's intercooled? how do I find out my max boost PSI? what's flow rate CC mean? how do I find out stall RPM, or is that part of a mod torque converter? Thanks! |
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I would not worry about filling out any these if the vehicle is stock. They are mainly used for modified vehicles. |
more info, more questions...
OK, so I finally got my truck figured out for what's on it. Looks like this:
Banks big head wastegate control Banks stinger plus chip - will be removed, of course Banks transcommand - will be removed 4" exhaust 3.5" downpipe boost guage EGT guage 3:73 gear ratio I added: Napa 6637 intake HPX crossover line From what I can figure out I have the stock Garrett turbo on it, GTP38. The exhaust side housing has 1.00 A/R on it, is this stock too? My question is I've read that the stock turbos will go boom if pushing too much boost. With WOT I get 24 lbs right now with the above setup. So, will this chip be a good idea still or too hot? Will I get out of it what I'm looking for with the fairly stock setup? I figure if I get it I'll get these settings: 65 HP moderate tow - based on Cody's recommend 80 HP daily driver - again based on Cody's wisdom 100 performance - see above |
I talked to a guy this morning from Deleware. He's running a fairly similar setup to yours. I did tell him that he will notice a BIG difference in towing between the NVK5 PCM code he presently has and the PMT1 he would be getting. Unless you have changed your PCM, you're still using the original PCM code as well (since the Banks chip is a 2-bank jobbie).
You can always adjust the wastegate to keep tabs on the boost. I'm going to say that you really shouldn't have an issue with boost levels. You have a really solid foundation there and I know that you'll notice an immediate improvement. Banks has some decent tuning for sure, but until you try something totally different, you'll never know how good it can be. Besides, being able to change the truck's overall personality with the flick of the wrist is something that Banks doesn't let you do. Oh, and I wouldn't call it wisdom. :embarrassed: But thanks for the compliment! |
Sounds good then. What would be a good 4th position to have? I'll fill up 2 places with the mod stock and anti theft, way as well go for 6 positions I guess. Not sure I'd use a 4th position but who knows....
BTW, thanks for all the answers to some probably dumb questions,I'm pretty ignorant about so much of this stuff. |
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4th position? I don't think PHP charges for a high idle calibration and I've found that I really can't live without a high idle position anymore. I was hooked the first time I used it. The heater stays warmer in the winter due to increased coolant flow through the heater core and the A/C stays cooler in the summer due to increased airflow (from the cooling fan) through the A/C condenser. You probably know Montana well....-30 in the winter and 100+ in the summer. |
MtPaul keep on asking!
Look like we have pretty much same stuff on trucks and your ?s are right up my alley! I called Cody yesterday after reading your post & got some great info,He is probably thinking that idiot (me) should just keep reading, haha.By the way Cody I did e-mail Bill yesterday & like I said was dam near quit time by the time I got it written.Never thought much about hi-idle cause mine kicks up in the cold but that would be nice for A/C.Be interested to see what you decide Paul,thanks CJ
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Running the A/C is usually what I use High Idle for. Also, if you sit for long periods (like napping at the rest stop... heh heh), you want to have the idle a bit higher so you don't get what's called "wet stacking", which is a buildup of unburnt deposits on the back of the exhaust valves.
I hope this helps. |
This is Minotaur-related stuff but I really don't need a position on my chip for high idle anymore and I don't have to worry about driving off with high idle on. :cool:
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Why is that?
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I pulled the PCM out to get the code off the back and decided to pull the Banks chip to check the contacts - looks like someone did a whiz-bang job of cleaning it, maybe too clean, there's some copper showing. Can I take it to any electronics repair place to be re-tinned if it needs it?
I'll try to post some pics , if I can get to some clear one's without taking it apart again..... |
Yes, if you have copper showing on the contacts, PLEASE get them fixed before installing the new chip. You can thwart any chances of chip contact problems.
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If worse comes to worse, we offer re-tinning of the J3 port for $15.00 plus shipping. However, any competent electronics facility should be able to handle that for you.
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re-tinning
Did some calling around, 1st 3 calls people sounded like they thought I was speaking in tongues to them, they just didn't get it. Found a TV repair guy down the road a ways that said no prob, I'll do it while you wait, about $5.00 or so. So, tomorrow I'll yank the PCM out and run it down to him.
Getting all the pieces together and all my ducks in a row before I order anything, want to be prepared so all I have to do is install and run. Had to order another bypass plug from Banks for the transcommand, only $8.40, free shipping - got a deal on that. Should be here next week. I think I threw out the old one because I didn't know what it was for when I got the truck. :doh: Can't find it..:shrug: The PCM bracket was cut out for the old chip, looks like I can access everything from the front and won't have to pull it again to install... I hope. |
Order time....
Bit the bullet and placed my order today....oh boy oh boy!
Thanks for all your help, Cody. I'm sure I'll be calling with some questions. Based on your recommends I decided on this setup: Pos 1- mod stock Pos 2 - 80 HP DD Pos 3 - 100 HP performance Pos 4 - 65 HP standard tow Pos 5 - Anti theft Decided on just the 3 main positions, couldn't really justify the extra $$ for something that would be either a convenience or purely play time. Though about the idle one, but I really try not to idle my truck more than 5 min or so if I can avoid it...call me cheap. Thanks again! |
Nice work, Cheap. (You told me to call you "cheap".) :cheesy smile:
Just joking. That sounds like a GREAT setup. You're going to love it. Congratulations! |
Haven't received shiiping notice yet....
ohhh the anticipation.... tick tick tick :) |
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