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hampsterzone Sat, January 8th, 2011 09:36 PM

Putting it all together, needing some sound advice.
 
Thanks in advance to whomsoever replies! I have a '04 F150 w/ the 5.4 3V Triton. I have an AFE cold air intake w/ the Silver Bullet throttle body spacer. Edlebrock headers, true dual exhaust w/ Dynomax Bullet Race muffler. I have the Graphon with custom 91 performance and custom 91 tow tunes coming soon. I had to upgrade my edge evolution so I would stop running lean. I also run 35" tires. Should I change my gears from 3.73 to 4.10? That is what the new Raptors have w/ the 35" inch tires. Also, is there anything else I can do for better performance? How about a supercharger? Worth the money? Again, thanks to those who reply.:hmmm:

Longshot270 Sat, January 8th, 2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hampsterzone (Post 42879)
Thanks in advance to whomsoever replies! I have a '04 F150 w/ the 5.4 3V Triton. I have an AFE cold air intake w/ the Silver Bullet throttle body spacer. Edlebrock headers, true dual exhaust w/ Dynomax Bullet Race muffler. I have the Graphon with custom 91 performance and custom 91 tow tunes coming soon. I had to upgrade my edge evolution so I would stop running lean. I also run 35" tires. Should I change my gears from 3.73 to 4.10? That is what the new Raptors have w/ the 35" inch tires. Also, is there anything else I can do for better performance? How about a supercharger? Worth the money? Again, thanks to those who reply.:hmmm:

Very nice set up. You are obviously aware of the lean condition so no point in beating a dead horse right? :D

Since you were asking about the gotts I'll say stick with the AFE if you like the open filter. I had an open filter for a while and I liked the sound but I didn't like the high IATs and ended up going back to my gotts modded intake. The only time I go back is if I'll be showing off my mostly stock engine bay. If yours is an open filter I recommend you make something to block hot engine air from getting sucked in. But that is only if you do quite a bit of stop and go driving. If you do mostly highway driving then it doesn't matter.

4.10 gears would help your truck but if you feel the 3.73 gears are doing well enough then I'd leave it.

A supercharger would probably help improve performance :D Depends on how much you value power. It'll give you more gains than all those mods put together but obviously it has a hefty price. I've only looked at superchargers, never used one so I can't say. Other than that you have to realize you've only got so much engine in a very heavy vehicle. Your tires definitely aren't helping.

hampsterzone Sat, January 8th, 2011 10:15 PM

lRight on! I know my big tires rob me blind of power but it helps give me the ground clearance I need. I will upload pics of my truck on Monday. My truck has a 5" lift in front and 3" lift in back w/ Bushwacker flares. Thus the bigger tires. I know a lot about what I have but little about what I think I want. LOL! How much for 4:10 gears? Where would I buy them? Are there any other mods I could do besides supercharging my engine? They are expensive and I need time to save.:cool:

Longshot270 Sat, January 8th, 2011 10:32 PM

Kinda left out the lift on the vehicle description. :hehe:

88Racing, another moderator here, recommends Randy's Ring and Pinion. Give them a call and they'll probably be able to set you up. I've never had to deal with any shop for my truck so I dont know what it costs to have gears swapped out.
Randy's Ring & Pinion. The Differential Experts. Auto Parts & Services.

You could try looking for cams and other internal parts. Those have always shown improvements on gas engines.

Another form of boost that I'm actually considering (if it would just start raining money) is the squires turbo system. Might be worth looking into if you go off road a lot. Sometimes turbo lag can be a good thing out on the trail.

hampsterzone Sat, January 8th, 2011 10:43 PM

Thank you sooooo much! I truly appreciate your advice and opinion. Yeah, I forgot the lift description. It is kinda nice to have so many mode you forget about them. I will look into what you suggested. How much for that turbo?

Longshot270 Sat, January 8th, 2011 11:17 PM

The price varies but looks like it is about the same price as a supercharger. I could have sworn they were quite a bit cheaper...but I also looked at it over a year ago. Damn time flies! :doh:. You'll have to find a local dealer and ask them. Just look up STS, they have an F150 package and a dealer list.

I would look into new gears and maybe the e-fans and under drive pulleys. Much cheaper and they help a bit.

BLFX4K Wed, January 12th, 2011 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Longshot270 (Post 42887)
The price varies but looks like it is about the same price as a supercharger. I could have sworn they were quite a bit cheaper...but I also looked at it over a year ago. Damn time flies! :doh:. You'll have to find a local dealer and ask them. Just look up STS, they have an F150 package and a dealer list.

I would look into new gears and maybe the e-fans and under drive pulleys. Much cheaper and they help a bit.

I've heard the sts system sucks up water, would creating some sort of cover help with this? I get concerned with a rear mount exhaust that cost 2 grand sucking up water and ruining my 42k truck:shrug: just my 2 cents

Also look into 4.56 gears, more beneficial than going from 3.73-4.10

Longshot270 Wed, January 12th, 2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BLFX4K (Post 42978)
I've heard the sts system sucks up water, would creating some sort of cover help with this? I get concerned with a rear mount exhaust that cost 2 grand sucking up water and ruining my 42k truck:shrug: just my 2 cents

Also look into 4.56 gears, more beneficial than going from 3.73-4.10

I personally haven't heard of that happening but you are definitely right. I would spend an extra $50 for some PVC pipe and run it into the engine bay or to any area that is higher up.

I must gotten a price for the twin turbo F150 kit.

Jackpine Wed, January 12th, 2011 12:21 PM

hampsterzone - Since your engine is not being fueled by a carburetor, the throttle body spacer is better used as a doorstop. (Or perhaps you could get someone to buy it from you and put the cash toward new gears which WOULD provide a benefit.)

- Jack

hampsterzone Wed, January 12th, 2011 04:20 PM

Haha, a door stop? It has been installed a long time ago. LOL! Back before I knew much of anything. I did purchase the 4.56 gears and they will be installed on Wednesday next week. I ordered a set of electric fans as well for my truck from FF Dynamics. I am very excited to see what my truck feels like with the new gears, fans, and graphon w/ 91 custom performance tunes. I have been running stock w/ just CAI and custom exhaust. My truck has not thrown lean codes since I took off my edge and sent it to PHP. All I can say is thanks to everyone who has helped. I have learned a lot lately. And there is a Nissan Titan in big trouble after my mods are completed. He barely beat me on the track last time. LOL. I normally don't race but everyone has talked down my truck cuz it's a Ford. I just think someone ought to show up and give Ford back it's name. :D

Longshot270 Wed, January 12th, 2011 04:23 PM

Ain't gonna lie, those Titans are pretty quick. Hope he barely beat you when you added the 35s and not before.

bigterp Wed, January 12th, 2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hampsterzone (Post 42997)
Haha, a door stop? It has been installed a long time ago. LOL! Back before I knew much of anything. I did purchase the 4.56 gears and they will be installed on Wednesday next week. I ordered a set of electric fans as well for my truck from FF Dynamics. I am very excited to see what my truck feels like with the new gears, fans, and graphon w/ 91 custom performance tunes. I have been running stock w/ just CAI and custom exhaust. My truck has not thrown lean codes since I took off my edge and sent it to PHP. All I can say is thanks to everyone who has helped. I have learned a lot lately. And there is a Nissan Titan in big trouble after my mods are completed. He barely beat me on the track last time. LOL. I normally don't race but everyone has talked down my truck cuz it's a Ford. I just think someone ought to show up and give Ford back it's name. :D

Give that Titan hell! And if you wouldn't mind I'd LOVE to get some feedback on the ff dynamics efan kit. Shoot me a pm or start a thread about it once you get them installed if you can remember. I'm probably going to go with the same kit but probably not until this summer sometime. Good luck with everything.

BLFX4K Sat, January 15th, 2011 01:09 AM

The titans are pretty quick

Running mid 6 to 60 isn't bad for truck n/a

Mine beats out nissans, dodges, chevrolets, bmws lol:smiley_roll1:

That's on 35s without custom tunes, or underdrive pulleys and on 87 canned from php

My plans are for 4.56 gears, underdrives, cams, custom 87 performance, and one day a supercharger.

Better yet I think Ill get an ecoboost:giggle:

hampsterzone Sun, January 23rd, 2011 09:17 PM

The Titan beat me on canned tunes on an Edge w/ 35" tires and 3.73 gearing. Next time we race it will be with me having 4.56 gears, custom performance tunes on a Graphon that accounts for ALL my mods and efans. Hopefully than means he will be toast. My efans from FF Dynamics go on this Friday. My mechanic is hooking it up for me. That way he can monitor the temp and make sure they turn on and off like they should. They are build better than other kits and the kit is really nice and easy to install. I will start a new thread once they are installed. And of course after my Graphon shows up and I smoke the Titan and Tundra. I will be letting anyone who cares know how nice they look in the rearview mirror!

BLFX4K Mon, January 24th, 2011 02:35 AM

I beat titans and tundras with the mods I have now on 87 tow tune lol

im running 93 canned right now its so much better over the 87 tow

my 4.56 go in about a week or two from now. im stoked:woot::happy-dancing:


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