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way2qk4u2c Wed, March 25th, 2009 01:39 PM

Gryphon has finally returned :)
 
Today i received a box with the Gryphon inside of it- im super excited.

Thanks Corey and Bill!

TXWolf Wed, March 25th, 2009 01:50 PM

Be sure and let us know what you think, especially if you have custom tunes. :woot:

JWBFX4 Wed, March 25th, 2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TXWolf (Post 6551)
Be sure and let us know what you think, especially if you have custom tunes. :woot:

Glad you got it back...hard to do with out it huh?

x2 let us know what it does for your truck

jimmyv13 Wed, March 25th, 2009 02:36 PM

Was yours in the last batch that was sent out on Monday?

way2qk4u2c Thu, March 26th, 2009 10:08 PM

I put it back in tonight... Bill can correct me but i dont think my custom tune is loaded in there (unless he had time to create one im not sure though) But from what i gather that the custom tune takes along time to create. So i wouldnt expect one to be done in a week lol

The truck seems like it was when i sent it to them so i havent felt a difference. The canned tunes make the truck fun to drive but im curious to Bill's custom tune to see the difference.

JWBFX4 Thu, March 26th, 2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by way2qk4u2c (Post 6647)
I put it back in tonight... Bill can correct me but i dont think my custom tune is loaded in there (unless he had time to create one im not sure though) But from what i gather that the custom tune takes along time to create. So i wouldnt expect one to be done in a week lol

The truck seems like it was when i sent it to them so i havent felt a difference. The canned tunes make the truck fun to drive but im curious to Bill's custom tune to see the difference.

So did you send in the edge to get it converted to the gryphon?

If thats the case, from what I read on here and what was posted just the other day I believe you would already have the custom tune then :shrug:

way2qk4u2c Fri, March 27th, 2009 09:42 AM

hmmm....

I forgot which level is the custom tune is on lol- i think i asked for level 1 to be overwritten but im not sure.

I can tell a difference from stock to level 1 no doubt.

Yeah i sent mine in to be converted from edge to gryphon.

jimmyv13 Fri, March 27th, 2009 04:52 PM

I had level 1 rewritten for an 87 perf tune. The tune is still called level 1 tranny...I'm hoping it's my custom tune, maybe Bill can't change the name of each tune. I haven't driven it yet...

Jackpine Fri, March 27th, 2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyv13 (Post 6685)
I had level 1 rewritten for an 87 perf tune. The tune is still called level 1 tranny...I'm hoping it's my custom tune, maybe Bill can't change the name of each tune. I haven't driven it yet...

Bill CAN change the names, at least on 2004+ programmers. But, that doesn't mean he did. I hate to say it, but you might want to email Corey and ask if your custom tune(s) are loaded, or, if you are still waiting for them.

- Jack

TritonTime Fri, March 27th, 2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyv13 (Post 6685)
I had level 1 rewritten for an 87 perf tune. The tune is still called level 1 tranny...I'm hoping it's my custom tune, maybe Bill can't change the name of each tune. I haven't driven it yet...

I received my updated Edge today as well. I replaced the Tranny tune with a 87 performance custom tune, but mine also still says Level 1 is the Tranny tune though.

I doubt they incorrectly loaded all 3 of ours, but even if they did I'm sure it was an honest mistake. I just e-mailed Corey about the situation. I'll address it on here as soon as I get a response.

jimmyv13 Fri, March 27th, 2009 10:45 PM

A note from Corey in the pkg said the tune was loaded. BTW, I took a 159 mile trip today in tune 1 and got 17.1mpg @ 77mph.

way2qk4u2c Mon, March 30th, 2009 10:43 AM

Ok so after a week of riding around... it seems that my mpg is better than before. Its not hard to get 15 in the city now. I was usually around 13-14.

The only thing i notice is it seems like it takes forever to get into O/D like i have to really be going over 50mph (sometimes 55mph) and maintain that speed while messing with the pedal to push it into O/D

I havent tried level 2 yet to see if the same issue resides.

I would assume my custom tune is loaded already- since that is what was the delay in the upgrades.

Jackpine Mon, March 30th, 2009 12:12 PM

You can adjust the O/D shift points in the Custom Options, if you want. I've reduced the upshift and downshift speeds by the maximum amount (I think it's -5) and I get into O/D in the 40+ mph range if I'm not doing any kind of hard acceleration.

Of course, Bill may have adjusted your shift points for a more aggressive power curve from a standing start, and he knew I didn't want that.

- Jack

way2qk4u2c Mon, March 30th, 2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 6854)
You can adjust the O/D shift points in the Custom Options, if you want. I've reduced the upshift and downshift speeds by the maximum amount (I think it's -5) and I get into O/D in the 40+ mph range if I'm not doing any kind of hard acceleration.

Of course, Bill may have adjusted your shift points for a more aggressive power curve from a standing start, and he knew I didn't want that.

- Jack

Very good info- i might reduce it alittle.

Jackpine Mon, March 30th, 2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by way2qk4u2c (Post 6855)
Very good info- i might reduce it alittle.

Sure - it doesn't hurt to try. I reduced ALL my shift points and, all my TC lockup points by the maximum amount too. This only effects part throttle acceleration. It has no effect on WOT acceleration. I find that having the shift and TC lockups set the way I've done it, the truck seems to flow very nicely with other traffic, and I never try to beat anyone to the next light.

- Jack

way2qk4u2c Tue, March 31st, 2009 09:24 AM

Alright so i went into the programming and changed my 3-4 shift (std shifting) to -2 and it did nothing for me.

The O/D doesnt kick in until 55mph and above. Should i worry about this or leave it alone?

I drive alot of 40mph speed limits all the way to work and its not in O/D the whole way.

:shrug:

I didnt see any TC options to set in there?

soutthpaw Tue, March 31st, 2009 10:23 AM

I think you are gonna need Bill to tweak your custom tunes at this point if you could not get the tranny where you wanted it with the changes you made

Jackpine Tue, March 31st, 2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by way2qk4u2c (Post 6956)
Alright so i went into the programming and changed my 3-4 shift (std shifting) to -2 and it did nothing for me.

The O/D doesnt kick in until 55mph and above. Should i worry about this or leave it alone?

I drive alot of 40mph speed limits all the way to work and its not in O/D the whole way.

:shrug:

I didnt see any TC options to set in there?

I'm pretty sure you can reduce the 3-4 upshift and 4-3 downshift by -5. That's what I did. (I also changed the 1-2, 2-1 upshift/downshift to -2, the 2-3, 3-2 shifts to -3). Those are the maximum changes we can do.

I'm VERY puzzled that you don't have Torque Converter choices in your Custom Options menu. As I recall, in my unit, it's the next choice below the shift options? You and I have nearly identical Gryphon's (your's might be a little newer - mine is a converted Edge).

I think southpaw's right though, your custom tunes sound like they have the shift points way up in the rpm/speed curve (for more power) and I don't see how you're going to get the 3-4 upshift below 50. Bill CAN adjust those shift points down if it's really what you want. Even though I'm older than you, I don't really drive like a Grandpa. My truck accelerates easily with other traffic and I have no trouble accelerating faster if I want.

I just had a thought though. What's your gearing and tire size? It may be that you really don't want the O/D on much earlier than it is. (As I recall, when mine kicks in and the TC locks, the RPM is about 1100, and you probably would not want it much below that).

- Jack

soutthpaw Tue, March 31st, 2009 11:12 AM

1100RPM? that's pretty low for a gasser... how far into the throttle do you get before it unlocks. I would think the engine would lug pretty bad if you tried any acceleration with the rpm's that low on a locked TC

way2qk4u2c Tue, March 31st, 2009 12:41 PM

Well i have the stock 20in rims from factory on my truck with stock tires.

Im not sure what that cooresponds to the gryphon becaus ei think i saw my tire size listed as 2760 i think- im not exactly sure by memory.

my gear ratio i dont know that either off the top of my head but i think i saw it in the gryphon set as 3:73

I have a edge converted to gryphon as well

Yeah around 50mph my rpms are at 1800 and once i hit 55mph i have to work at it to push it into O/D and then they go down to about 1200 rpm

Yeah i have no option for TC control at all

way2qk4u2c Tue, March 31st, 2009 07:55 PM

So on my way home from work i decided to try something

I put the gryphon into level 2 programming (since that is a canned tune still)

The truck shifted to O/D immediately at 45 mph and felt like how it was before.

The custom tune must have been loaded and causing this problem- its locked until 55mph

Bill is there something you can do to fix this for me :)

way2qk4u2c Fri, April 10th, 2009 10:49 PM

Im still waiting for this to be fixed????


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