Gryphon has finally returned :) - Page 2

jimmyv13 · #11 Fri, March 27th, 2009, 11:45 PM

A note from Corey in the pkg said the tune was loaded. BTW, I took a 159 mile trip today in tune 1 and got 17.1mpg @ 77mph.

way2qk4u2c · #12 Mon, March 30th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Ok so after a week of riding around... it seems that my mpg is better than before. Its not hard to get 15 in the city now. I was usually around 13-14.

The only thing i notice is it seems like it takes forever to get into O/D like i have to really be going over 50mph (sometimes 55mph) and maintain that speed while messing with the pedal to push it into O/D

I havent tried level 2 yet to see if the same issue resides.

I would assume my custom tune is loaded already- since that is what was the delay in the upgrades.

***Jackpine*** · #13 Mon, March 30th, 2009, 01:12 PM

You can adjust the O/D shift points in the Custom Options, if you want. I've reduced the upshift and downshift speeds by the maximum amount (I think it's -5) and I get into O/D in the 40+ mph range if I'm not doing any kind of hard acceleration.

Of course, Bill may have adjusted your shift points for a more aggressive power curve from a standing start, and he knew I didn't want that.

- Jack

way2qk4u2c · #14 Mon, March 30th, 2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JackandJanet

You can adjust the O/D shift points in the Custom Options, if you want. I've reduced the upshift and downshift speeds by the maximum amount (I think it's -5) and I get into O/D in the 40+ mph range if I'm not doing any kind of hard acceleration.

Of course, Bill may have adjusted your shift points for a more aggressive power curve from a standing start, and he knew I didn't want that.

- Jack

Very good info- i might reduce it alittle.

***Jackpine*** · #15 Mon, March 30th, 2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by way2qk4u2c

Very good info- i might reduce it alittle.

Sure - it doesn't hurt to try. I reduced ALL my shift points and, all my TC lockup points by the maximum amount too. This only effects part throttle acceleration. It has no effect on WOT acceleration. I find that having the shift and TC lockups set the way I've done it, the truck seems to flow very nicely with other traffic, and I never try to beat anyone to the next light.

- Jack

way2qk4u2c · #16 Tue, March 31st, 2009, 10:24 AM

Alright so i went into the programming and changed my 3-4 shift (std shifting) to -2 and it did nothing for me.

The O/D doesnt kick in until 55mph and above. Should i worry about this or leave it alone?

I drive alot of 40mph speed limits all the way to work and its not in O/D the whole way.

I didnt see any TC options to set in there?

soutthpaw · #17 Tue, March 31st, 2009, 11:23 AM

I think you are gonna need Bill to tweak your custom tunes at this point if you could not get the tranny where you wanted it with the changes you made

***Jackpine*** · #18 Tue, March 31st, 2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by way2qk4u2c

Alright so i went into the programming and changed my 3-4 shift (std shifting) to -2 and it did nothing for me.

The O/D doesnt kick in until 55mph and above. Should i worry about this or leave it alone?

I drive alot of 40mph speed limits all the way to work and its not in O/D the whole way.

I didnt see any TC options to set in there?

I'm pretty sure you can reduce the 3-4 upshift and 4-3 downshift by -5. That's what I did. (I also changed the 1-2, 2-1 upshift/downshift to -2, the 2-3, 3-2 shifts to -3). Those are the maximum changes we can do.

I'm VERY puzzled that you don't have Torque Converter choices in your Custom Options menu. As I recall, in my unit, it's the next choice below the shift options? You and I have nearly identical Gryphon's (your's might be a little newer - mine is a converted Edge).

I think southpaw's right though, your custom tunes sound like they have the shift points way up in the rpm/speed curve (for more power) and I don't see how you're going to get the 3-4 upshift below 50. Bill CAN adjust those shift points down if it's really what you want. Even though I'm older than you, I don't really drive like a Grandpa. My truck accelerates easily with other traffic and I have no trouble accelerating faster if I want.

I just had a thought though. What's your gearing and tire size? It may be that you really don't want the O/D on much earlier than it is. (As I recall, when mine kicks in and the TC locks, the RPM is about 1100, and you probably would not want it much below that).

- Jack

soutthpaw · #19 Tue, March 31st, 2009, 12:12 PM

1100RPM? that's pretty low for a gasser... how far into the throttle do you get before it unlocks. I would think the engine would lug pretty bad if you tried any acceleration with the rpm's that low on a locked TC

way2qk4u2c · #20 Tue, March 31st, 2009, 01:41 PM

Well i have the stock 20in rims from factory on my truck with stock tires.

Im not sure what that cooresponds to the gryphon becaus ei think i saw my tire size listed as 2760 i think- im not exactly sure by memory.

my gear ratio i dont know that either off the top of my head but i think i saw it in the gryphon set as 3:73

I have a edge converted to gryphon as well

Yeah around 50mph my rpms are at 1800 and once i hit 55mph i have to work at it to push it into O/D and then they go down to about 1200 rpm

Yeah i have no option for TC control at all