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2004 to 2008 F-150 and Mark-LT
4.2L, 4.6L and 5.4L equipped F-150s and Mark-LTs.


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Old Mon, August 3rd, 2009, 11:44 PM
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How's the fluid look?
How's the fluid smell?
When is the last time the tranny fluid and filter have been changed?
I will let Bill know this problem exists with your truck.

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Hey, the fluid looks and smells fine, I compared it to my wifes car to be sure and as far as I could tell they looked and smelled the same. The level was high but the truck was not completely cool. With only 40K I doubt the fluid or filter have been changed, I have not done it but I bought it with 33K. Thanks for the help Lars, my truck was almost identical to yours when I bought it in February, just a little different now! later
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Ugh - I don't even have an opinion, which is strange for me.

I can't believe the original owner beat the transmission up ant it took 7K for you to see it.The fact that at least some of the symptoms go away at stock seem to point in part to the Gryphon.

Hope Bill comes on with an answer and that it's a simple fix!

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Between 10K-20K I did some car transporting but since the auto slump I haven't done any real pulling for the last 7K. But at 20K my tranny had a complete flush, drain and new fluid and filter done to it. If I am pulling a lot every 20k I do that and I do see some improvements in shifting. But with the problem I have everything goes away when put back to stock. Bill has advised me not to reflash. Your symptoms will have to be addressed by Bill I think. Yes my hex is a TEJ one but yours looks like a newer version, mine looks more 1st gen for the 06 year.

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Btw what gears and what size tires?
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Ah, the famous TEJ hex code again, I completely overlooked that in the original post! Since the components in the transmissions don't change (at least not much), in a model year, I wonder why there is a need for all the various "strategies"? It simply doesn't make any sense to me.

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Since the components in the transmissions don't change (at least not much), in a model year, I wonder why there is a need for all the various "strategies"? It simply doesn't make any sense to me.

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I suspect all the different calibrations are related to all the possible engine/transmission/driveline choices: 2WD/4WD, 4.6/5.4, Flex Fuel/non-Flex, 49-state/50-state. So with just those options, the matrix is 4^2, or 16 possible combinations just in one model year. Only my guess....
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I suspect all the different calibrations are related to all the possible engine/transmission/driveline choices: 2WD/4WD, 4.6/5.4, Flex Fuel/non-Flex, 49-state/50-state. So with just those options, the matrix is 4^2, or 16 possible combinations just in one model year. Only my guess....
Dang, Sburn! You're trying to put me out of mathematician business here, aren't you? :sadface:

I wonder though, how much difference flex/non-flex fuel is, and, 49/50 state differences seem like they should be minimal too.

However, I suspect you're dead right on this!

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I wonder though, how much difference flex/non-flex fuel is, and, 49/50 state differences seem like they should be minimal too.

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Functionally, I suspect there’s little to no change between those two flavors. Maybe labeling is done that way to satisfy some regulatory requirement or to be able to prove something to the EPA (flex) or CARB (50-state).

I know as a Kalifornia resident, I can't go out-of-state to buy a new car and bring it back here unless it's 50-state certified on the VECI label. I imagine a 49-state label could easily come unglued and somehow a 50-state label might get put in its place, leaving the PCM calibration as the only true way to tell the 49/50-state status.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures...cts/ffvr29.htm


Back in the 70's-80's California cars did have some actual hardware differences that were unique to our Golden State. NOx (nitrogen oxides) valves in the distributor vacuum lines, I think it was. Maybe cats and EVAP stuff too before the rest of the country got them. I don't think there's been any actual hardware differences between CA and the other 49 states in a while now. But that's all fixing to change again when CA goes to their own CO2 standard.
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I suspect all the different calibrations are related to all the possible engine/transmission/driveline choices: 2WD/4WD, 4.6/5.4, Flex Fuel/non-Flex, 49-state/50-state. So with just those options, the matrix is 4^2, or 16 possible combinations just in one model year. Only my guess....
Could possibly be more than that by the time you take into effect all model aspects.
Like 6^4
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Oh great! Now Lars is getting "combinatorial"! I might as well quit right now!

And to SBurn - do you get charged for "service" if they put air in your tires (I bet)? It's one way to help a business in this economy, I suppose. That bit about the paint is just over the top, isn't it?

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Could possibly be more than that by the time you take into effect all model aspects.
Like 6^4
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OK, if anybody wants to get pedantic and has a copy of Excel, every blinkin' Ford car and LD truck calibration for the last ten years is shown in the Excel file at the bottom of this page:


http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdi...id=calibration


So, count away, gents...
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