Throttle response?!?!

[Jackpine]

Originally Posted by RobbyMartin

One more question...

I had a BBK 75mm throttle body installed and then recently removed and I feel no difference in the way the truck runs or responds. After getting the Gryphon, will my truck benefit from it or will it run the same? I am thinking of selling it if it makes no difference but if it will help improve the Gryphons tune then I want to keep it. If it will help the performance, will it help or hurt my mileage?

Again guys, thanks a million for your help! I'm glad I heard about PHP.

I've never heard anyone talk about this component before you. So, I don't really have any ideas here. I think this is a question that's better directed to Bill Cohron. I'd think it WOULD effect the tune, but you don't seem to be seeing any effect.

- Jack

[RobbyMartin]

Originally Posted by JackandJanet

I've never heard anyone talk about this component before you. So, I don't really have any ideas here. I think this is a question that's better directed to Bill Cohron. I'd think it WOULD effect the tune, but you don't seem to be seeing any effect.

- Jack

I don't see many people getting significant gains with a CAI unless its tuned for one so I was wondering if its the same for larger throttle bodies.

And I am trying to read up about underdrive pulleys but I haven't read anywhere if a 2 pulley or 3 pulley set is better for my truck (2002 w/4.6L).

[88Racing]

Originally Posted by RobbyMartin

I don't see many people getting significant gains with a CAI unless its tuned for one so I was wondering if its the same for larger throttle bodies.

And I am trying to read up about underdrive pulleys but I haven't read anywhere if a 2 pulley or 3 pulley set is better for my truck (2002 w/4.6L).

My opinion on those intakes is this
the people who advertise them as power gaining add on should be fired.
Yes it moves the product but no they don't show the customer the whole picture.
Been involved with HD's to much lately but here's a parallel.
HD sells a kit.
It includes a bigger TB
but wait there more!
A bigger intake.
Bigger injectors.
Different cams.
Different heads.
Different pushrods.
And for extra cash a dyno run.

Do you see the big picture now?

[RobbyMartin]

Originally Posted by 88Racing

My opinion on those intakes is this
the people who advertise them as power gaining add on should be fired.
Yes it moves the product but no they don't show the customer the whole picture.
Been involved with HD's to much lately but here's a parallel.
HD sells a kit.
It includes a bigger TB
but wait there more!
A bigger intake.
Bigger injectors.
Different cams.
Different heads.
Different pushrods.
And for extra cash a dyno run.

Do you see the big picture now?

I've read so much that I'm confused. I've read that bigger intakes and larger throttle bodies are useless without forced air induction. Would you find this to be true?
I've read that the Gotts mod is just as good as the other. Then I thought I understood that Bill could write a tune that would compliment an aftermarket intake along with any engine mods someone may have. I guess my question is if keeping my Airaid intake with a custom tune would be better than the stock intake with the Gotts mod...or visa versa? And would my BBK 75mm TB be beneficial with a tune or would the stock TB be just as good? I don't want to hold onto to things aftermarket parts if they are not anymore beneficial than the stock parts.

[88Racing]

I guess what I was trying to say was that the TB needs other things to make it work better than just a tune and a cai.
The gryphon will give you truck some more power and so will the cai. The gryphon and cai do this together.
In order to get the bigger TB to make more power you will need an intake, cams, and possibly injectors.
Forced air is the way I would go if I had big pockets.

Lars

[fordkindaguy]

I have an 02 4.6L and did notice some power gain but it could be because i also have a flowmaster cat back which allows a little better flow. The gryphon will tune your truck for the extra air amount coming in so it can put in more gas, more air+more gas= more fun

[RobbyMartin]

Originally Posted by fordkindaguy

I have an 02 4.6L and did notice some power gain but it could be because i also have a flowmaster cat back which allows a little better flow. The gryphon will tune your truck for the extra air amount coming in so it can put in more gas, more air+more gas= more fun

I like the more fun part but I really don't like the more gas I'll be using. I think I'll keek the stock intake and TB and sell off the aftermarket parts. I'm hearing good things about pulleys so I'm going to add those.