2009-2010 Gryphon - when?

[dlsipe1]

Anyone have any updates from Edge? September is at our doorstep...

[mikey]

Eagerly awaiting test results and HP and Torque numbers!

Also, what features will be tunable...disable TC, tire size adjustments, trans shift points...etc.

At least we have something to look forward to...

[ticopowell]

Originally Posted by Groovy Chick

FYI, we will NOT be allowed to update earlier Gryphons or Evos too '09s and '10s.

but can you officially sell the gryphon CS now? or do you still need to get their permission?

[dlsipe1]

Hey Corey? You guys are now saying you can not upgrade the Gryphons from earlier models to work with the 09-10's? I held onto my Gryphon when I sold my 06 because I was told that it would be able to be updated to work with my 09. What now? It has been loaded with custom tunes that worked great with my old 06, but that truck and its buyer are long gone, as it was sold almost a year ago. Is it worthless now with these custom tunes on it? Please advise.

[ticopowell]

I dont know what Corey has to say, but you could always sell it to someone with an 04-08 F-150. worst case scenario of course

[dlsipe1]

I thought about that, but it had 3 custom tunes that Bill had written specifically for that truck. Is there a way to restore it to the original "canned" Gryphon tunes? I think that's the only way I'll be able to sell it. It is unlocked (original truck was returned to stock before I pulled the Gryphon out.

[Jackpine]

Yes, you can certainly restore it to the canned tune status. All you have to do is connect it to Pegasus, and click on [Updates]->[Gryphon Updated Manager] and then let it install BOTH firmware and calibration updates. The calibration updates will restore the canned tunes.

Your old custom tunes would not have worked on a newer truck anyway - Bill would have to totally re-write them, even if your programmer was still able to be used.

You can blame Edge for this if you'd like. They simply do not want custom tunes put onto a non CS/CTS unit for 09+ trucks.

I DO think you'll be able to sell your Gryphon pretty quickly though. And, it's a good excuse to get a CS or CTS! (I decided to get one for my truck and I still have the old Gryphon too.) You can tell Bill you want your new tunes to "feel" like the older ones, if you liked them. He can probably use that information to good advantage.

- Jack

[dlsipe1]

Thanks JackandJanet. I knew the custom tunes for the old truck wouldn't have worked. I was hoping to only have to pay for 3 new custom tunes and not a new programmer. I am sure this was a busine$$ decision on the part of edge not to allow older programmers to be reprogrammed and I don't blame Bill at all. I'm sure he's aware of the hardware capabilities, but if Edge says "no" he is probably bound by contract to comply. I'll see if I can figure this pegasus thing out and I guess its going to ebay.

I do like the new CS model, but really didn't want to put out the extra funds at this time.

[Jackpine]

Originally Posted by dlsipe1

Thanks JackandJanet. I knew the custom tunes for the old truck wouldn't have worked. I was hoping to only have to pay for 3 new custom tunes and not a new programmer. I am sure this was a busine$$ decision on the part of edge not to allow older programmers to be reprogrammed and I don't blame Bill at all. I'm sure he's aware of the hardware capabilities, but if Edge says "no" he is probably bound by contract to comply. I'll see if I can figure this pegasus thing out and I guess its going to ebay.

I do like the new CS model, but really didn't want to put out the extra funds at this time.

I understand your point completely and you are 100% correct in your analysis. It's very obvious that Edge is trying to quietly phase out the older style programmers in favor of the new ones and yes, from a business standpoint, it makes sense to market a single platform that "does everything".

Still, like you, I wish they had not closed the older units down so "firmly". In my case, if I ever sell my truck, the old Gryphon will go with it.

- Jack