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Old Sat, November 27th, 2010, 04:26 AM
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Sorry its an 08 F150. The code popped up while it was writing the checksum file. After I wouldn't go away or anything until I unplugged it. I'm guessing it has everything to do with the PCM being reflashed.
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Old Sat, November 27th, 2010, 10:51 AM
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Red, I doubt you were "flashed" - The error code 0xF1 can sometimes appear during programming. Try this:
1. Leave the ignition key in the ON position.
2. Disconnect the Gryphon at the OBDII port.
3. Plug the Gryphon back into the OBDII port.
4. After getting to the main screen, wait 15 seconds for needed parameters to be loaded.
If you still cannot program the PCM successfully, contact PHP for assistance.

I THINK your programmer simply did not boot properly after you got your truck back from the dealership.

AND - please insure your battery is fully charged and that both the truck and the Gryphon are "warm" (now that cold weather is here).

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Old Sat, November 27th, 2010, 04:04 PM
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I checked the HEX code in my Pegasus registration and it no longer matched what the Gryphon reads in my truck once I got the Gryphon unfrozen.

Pegasus : RDXG3B3
Gryphon/Truck : RDXG6B3

I think I'm just SOL. Is there a quicker turn around on getting tunes reworked for a new HEX than getting them from scratch? I put in a request already.

I should also mention that when I tried programming the custom tune in again I got the same message. Error code F1 (no 0x before). The file is not yet supported. I've seen the same issue posted but never an explanation of the issue, except for one where the S/N was buggered. I've used the tunes prior with no issues so why would it give me that error? Can this same error be displayed when the PCM has a different HEX code than what the tunes were for?

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Old Sun, November 28th, 2010, 05:30 AM
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I hate to say it but either the truck was reflashed, your grypon doesnt like you, or something in the works is possessed! HAHA jk... but yeah I would guess something either fried the gryphon or your truck got reflashed... but dont take my words for much, im just guessing. your best bet would be to call Bill and see what he has to say about it. and if noone answers, call back until they do! lol
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Old Sun, November 28th, 2010, 05:45 PM
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Hesitant to believe that its "fried". Hard to fry electronics when their unplugged unless its an open circuit board. It still functions normally as is, it just won't upload tunes. I'll be calling Bill tomorrow. Hopefully things will get sorted out sooner rather than later.
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Old Sun, November 28th, 2010, 08:09 PM
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I checked the HEX code in my Pegasus registration and it no longer matched what the Gryphon reads in my truck once I got the Gryphon unfrozen.

Pegasus : RDXG3B3
Gryphon/Truck : RDXG6B3

I think I'm just SOL. Is there a quicker turn around on getting tunes reworked for a new HEX than getting them from scratch? I put in a request already.

I should also mention that when I tried programming the custom tune in again I got the same message. Error code F1 (no 0x before). The file is not yet supported. I've seen the same issue posted but never an explanation of the issue, except for one where the S/N was buggered. I've used the tunes prior with no issues so why would it give me that error? Can this same error be displayed when the PCM has a different HEX code than what the tunes were for?
Well, you now have a different "version number" in the identification for the "stock coding" of your PCM, and yes, this means you were "reflashed". It's a puzzle to me why they would have changed the version and nothing else though. Was your truck built for a different part of the country/world than where it is now?

And sadly, this looks like a remake of the tunes you have. Custom tunes will not work with a new hex code.

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It's a puzzle to me why they would have changed the version and nothing else though.
Well, that's because I failed to mention that they did transmission work, my fault. It would seem to me anytime they do anything to your transmission they reflash the PCM. Why they can't just flash to the same HEX code I don't know. Obviously that HEX worked otherwise they wouldn't produce it but they still reprogram it to a different one everytime. What a PITA.
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I remember the transmission from another thread, I think. I'm still just as puzzled as you as to why the version number in the stock tune has to change.

But unless this is a totally new calibration, you SHOULD be able to operate your truck on canned tunes while you're waiting for your custom tunes to be rebuilt. (And, it won't cause any problem with your custom tunes either.)

Just start Pegasus, connect the Gryphon and click on [Update]->[Gryphon Update Manager]. Allow Pegasus to update BOTH your firmware and your calibrations (the tunes). Then, you SHOULD be able to reprogram your truck above "stock", and I would recommend the Level 2 "tow" tune as a very good all-around tune.

You should also update your registration in Pegasus with the new hex code. This MAY need to be done before you update the Gryphon itself, and I think it's automatic with the Gryphon plugged in if you click on [Help]->[Registration], then possibly [Clear] to remove the old data and [Retrieve] to transfer the new data.

Hope all this helps and I hope Bill is able to remake your custom tunes soon.

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Well, that's because I failed to mention that they did transmission work, my fault. It would seem to me anytime they do anything to your transmission they reflash the PCM. Why they can't just flash to the same HEX code I don't know. Obviously that HEX worked otherwise they wouldn't produce it but they still reprogram it to a different one everytime. What a PITA.
"Why can't I ever turn on my computer without an update message popping up?????"

It's no different than you trucks pcm.....Ford finds fixes and the techs at the dealership are only following protocol.....when they get trucks in with issues....that's all.
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Old Mon, November 29th, 2010, 07:04 PM
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I'm still just as puzzled as you as to why the version number in the stock tune has to change.
You lost me. All I know is that I get an F1 code when attempting to upload the custom tunes and that my gryphon reads a different HEX code. I'll put the canned tunes back on the gryphon tomorrow.
 

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