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4.2L, 4.6L and 5.4L equipped F-150s and Mark-LTs.


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Old Thu, April 19th, 2012, 11:30 PM
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Vibration after a re-gear is probably driveline related. It was there after you added the lift, but the increased driveline speed aggravated it. This simply could be cured with some wedges that correct pinion angle. The angle of the driveling coming out of the transmission needs to be the same as is is going into the rear differential so the u-joint's can work in unison.

Anther thing to note is the front driveline, from the factory the yokes come out of phase. This means they are 90* off from each other - not a problem until you add a lift and change the driveline angles. This vibration will only present itself in 4X4.

For the lack of power I would start with the basics. Check and make sure the MAF sensor is clean, fuel filter is not plugged and air filter condition.

Any codes present?
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No codes present at this time. Just changed air filter. I'll check out the MAS sensor. How difficult is it to check out the fuel filter and how will I know if it is or isn't clogged?

No vibrations while using 4x4. The guy I am dealing with that did my gears swears it's the torque converter and not pinion angle. I actually specifically asked him whether it was or wasn't pinion angle when I experienced it and he feels that it's a different kind of vibration. He was actually rather insulted I would question him on it and cited his 20+ years of experience doing gearing and the like. . .

I've been rather frustrated with this whole gearing process and him because it seems in the few short days I've been trying to learn about it, I've learned more about this than he seems to know or is willing to accept. Pinion angle definitely seems to be the issue at this time, or poor backlash setting or preload. . .we'll see what happens when he takes the gears out to replace them cause they also whined when I got them installed, and still do whine. He said he wouldn't replace them until 1000 miles on my first oil change stating Yukon doesn't warranty them until then.

I love my truck too much to see her go through all this stuff. /sigh It's killing me.
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Old Fri, April 20th, 2012, 10:03 AM
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On second thought it won't even matter. I'm just going to replace the fuel filter. I've got 74k miles and I doubt if it's ever been changed. I'm also going to clean the throttle body whilst I'm at the maf sensor. Anything else that you can or anyone else can think of that would cause a severe drag on performance?
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Old Fri, April 20th, 2012, 04:41 PM
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Pinion angle definitely seems to be the issue at this time, or poor backlash setting or preload. . .we'll see what happens when he takes the gears out to replace them cause they also whined when I got them installed, and still do whine. He said he wouldn't replace them until 1000 miles on my first oil change stating Yukon doesn't warranty them until then.
Uhh...if they whined they were not setup correctly. Yukon is going to laugh when they hear this.

I doubt this has anything to do with your vibration, but its not right. Its only going to get worse and no amount of setup is going to fix a improperly setup differential after the gears wear incorrectly.
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With all due respect, Dave you aren't telling me anything I don't know. Lol That's why I'm so frustrated with the shop. If it isn't right when I bring it back and they install a new set or try and refuse it there will be issues. I'm trying to give them their chance to save face. I really don't like being a jerk. If I'm forced to however I will.

On the issue of power, do you think there are any other issues I could hav causing power loss if after. Clean the Mas and replace the fuel filter along with cleaning the throttle body while I'm at it.
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Old Fri, April 20th, 2012, 10:31 PM
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I would start with the basics and move on from there, your on the right track.
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Back in late '09 from the Mad Doctor himself:

"Oh... and my Expy will beat most of the F-150s in the area. I haven't lost against one yet. The 3.31 gearing actually seems to help the engine produce more torque by increasing load and letting the engine pull harder. I've seen trucks go with shorter gears and actually lose performance because of load loss on the engine. Go figure... "
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Man that would be a real ball breaker if that was my issue!
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I would start with the basics and move on from there, your on the right track.
Thanks will do. It'll be my first time doing the filter. Is it a pain? Looked at some videos didn't seem to be too bad aside from taking off the fuel line pressure by turning off some switch in the fuse box. I'm trying to teach myself mechanic stuff so I no longer have to depend on people I don't trust. What do you think about spark plugs? Another thing I think may have been neglected. Not sure if I've said but my trucks got 75k miles. Could spark plugs cause power issues? Also I've heard of horror stories of removing spark plugs and snapping stuff...I've been less than excited to do those but think its probably pretty due.

I never did much aside from change my oil until recently did my own front brakes was proud of myself. Haha. I'm 25 never worked on cars. Feels like something a real man should do. So here I am trying to be a "real man".

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Thanks will do. It'll be my first time doing the filter. Is it a pain? Looked at some videos didn't seem to be too bad aside from taking off the fuel line pressure by turning off some switch in the fuse box. I'm trying to teach myself mechanic stuff so I no longer have to depend on people I don't trust. What do you think about spark plugs? Another thing I think may have been neglected. Not sure if I've said but my trucks got 75k miles. Could spark plugs cause power issues? Also I've heard of horror stories of removing spark plugs and snapping stuff...I've been less than excited to do those but think its probably pretty due.

I never did much aside from change my oil until recently did my own front brakes was proud of myself. Haha. I'm 25 never worked on cars. Feels like something a real man should do. So here I am trying to be a "real man".
Here are some tips for the fuel filter...

1. Pick where you're gonna do it and park the truck. Let it sit with the key out of the ignition for at least an hour. It'll give the fuel a chance to lose pressure. When you are picking a place to do it, go where you won't mind a bit of fuel being sprayed. It WILL be at least a partially pressurized system when you break the seal on it.

2. Wear safety glasses. Not sure if this is an issue for you but my dad is really bad about it. I was holding a pair out to him because he kept refusing. Then when he got the fuel disconnected it sprayed right in his face. He hates it when I say "I told ya so"

3. It's easy if you do your reading ahead of time.

If the filter has never been changed I'm surprised that the truck is still running.
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