Newbie with some questions

[trukki81]

Thanks for the input. Most of the complaints that I read were off of another website that I belong to, I think Ive seen you there(JackandJanet). One of the other members referred me to this site after I posted some questions regarding programmers. He also mentioned Troyer and VMP. This site seemed to be the easiest to operate. So here I be.
As far as calling it a headache, I guess its because I know so little about them. Im intrested in purcahsing one, i just dont know which one. The Edge programmer stood out to me the most, and Ive learned that the gryphon is basically the same thing only that it can be updated. Ive also heard good things about diablo and sct.
From what I understand these guys at PHP only do Ford applications? Do they only sell and program gryphon's as well?
Most all of the programmers out there run around $400. Are they all created equal? Im not real good with computers, so how hard are these things to update as far as hooking them up to one?

My apologies for all the questions, Im sure you guys see alot of them, and you'll probably see more from me.lol I do appreciate all the info!

[88Racing]

The gauge pod is a nice feature for the gryphon. It comes colored to match the gray dash(sorry if you have tan it it would require some paint).

No rinky dink looking suction cup or screw in mount.

Great heads up display.

A lot of choices to put on display(only 4 can be seen).

We may on wait 5-8 weeks but other customers at other companies are waiting 5-7 months for custom tunes.

Lars

[Jackpine]

Good questions, trukki81! Yes, I'm the same "JackandJanet".

As far as I know, ALL programmers are quite easy to use. I keep telling people a 5-year old could install one on a truck and I honestly believe it. Most of those 5-year olds could also push the buttons that would program the PCM. It really is VERY simple. Most problems occur when people don't quite follow the directions (although there have been some other problems that I talked about earlier).

Updating a Gryphon is quite painless. The Pegasus application is very simple to use.

I think you're much better off getting a Gryphon instead of an Edge. You're going to get fantastic customer support from Bill and Corey and you'll get better tunes - for pretty much the same price!

I've heard very good things about XCals from Justin Starkey at VMP and Mike Troyer at Troyer Performance too, so I doubt you'd go wrong with either of them. Anyone else? I dunno.

Are they created equal? Sort of - as far as being able to program the PCM. But, the Gryphon lets you monitor operating values in your truck as you drive it. That is worth a ton to me!

I know nothing about Diablo or SCT.

As far as I know, Bill specializes iin Ford applications, but this is much more than just Gryphons. Just read through this forum, especially the diesel part, and you'll get a hint of how versatile he is.

In this forum, we don't mind questions, so feel free to ask.

- Jack

[trukki81]

Thankyou!