The Ford vs GM chat

[soutthpaw]

Hummer is/was the total mid-life crisis guy brand.....
I am hoping when GM and/or Chrysler does its Bankruptcy announcement that Ford stock will take a dive.. At which time I will buy more of it if I have any money... better return that in my savings account that's for sure...

[88Racing]

I also think that ford had seen the "writing on the wall" much earlier than gm was able to.

Sorry to say this, they the mfgs need to go through everything and get rid of the fat and dead weight.
Streamlined mfgs will be better abled to with stand any downturns in the future.

Good lord they need to do something about their bonus structoring also.
Can't someone just say "good job" and give the guy a pat on the back?

Lars

[dlmcbm]

After being an auto mechanic for over 15 years and working on all makes and models I feel that they are all JUNK. Every last one of them. Just that some junk is better then others. why should it take 7hrs to replace an alt. on a newer monte-carlo with a 3.4 in it? Even if you want to get to fords (wich i love) why do dealers pull cabs off or even bodies off to do head gaskets on 6.0L? Why do they have to build these things the ways that they do besides to "TRY" and get you to go to the dealer to get it fixed. It does nothing but drives up the cost of repairs and tools that people like me have to buy. What was wrong with the standard socket? Now bolt heads have to have a new shape every year.

Ill stop ranting and raving now. I could go on and on.

[dplummer87]

Originally Posted by dlmcbm

After being an auto mechanic for over 15 years and working on all makes and models I feel that they are all JUNK. Every last one of them. Just that some junk is better then others. why should it take 7hrs to replace an alt. on a newer monte-carlo with a 3.4 in it? Even if you want to get to fords (wich i love) why do dealers pull cabs off or even bodies off to do head gaskets on 6.0L? Why do they have to build these things the ways that they do besides to "TRY" and get you to go to the dealer to get it fixed. It does nothing but drives up the cost of repairs and tools that people like me have to buy. What was wrong with the standard socket? Now bolt heads have to have a new shape every year.

Ill stop ranting and raving now. I could go on and on.

I dont think all the new cars today are junk, i think their Lego toys...They all snap apart and snap back together...just like when we were kids...If you think im wrong...all of you have never installed you pad mount

[88Racing]

Here's one for you mechanics. On the 5.4 04-08 f150's the altenater sits top dead center. Remember this. On the newer v8 cadillacs the starter sits in the same position except on the back side of the motor underneath the whole intake plenum assembly. Nice piece of engineering for you mechanics out there.

Lars

[dlmcbm]

Originally Posted by 88Racing

Here's one for you mechanics. On the 5.4 04-08 f150's the altenater sits top dead center. Remember this. On the newer v8 cadillacs the starter sits in the same position except on the back side of the motor underneath the whole intake plenum assembly. Nice piece of engineering for you mechanics out there.

Lars

YUP done a few of those. Same car...have to pull trans out to get exhaust cross-over pipe out to get oil pan off. and every one of them leaks.

another same car.....replace head gaskets...torque head bolts and you will pull the threads out of the aluminum block.

and this is a $50,000 car

[ChuckD]

And people wonder why I like the big diesel stuff.