A few questions

[kokopellimotorsports]

Originally Posted by secondarychaos

ok Ty.
I'll let you know when I get closer to knowing the exact one I want

Okay. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Thanks

Ty

[bbbxcursion]

Here's what I found PMT1 vs PMT3 if this helps at all??

[Power Hungry]

I didn't mean to make it sound like PMT1 and PMT2/3 weren't different... they are! But you wouldn't think that with the relatively few changes between them they would shift THAT badly. Whoever at Ford that did the PMT2/3 strategies clearly didn't have their thinking cap on that day.

Take care.

[bbbxcursion]

It's kinda funny if you think about it. I wonder what they were thinking?

[Power Hungry]

I think the thing that bothers me is that PMT1 was only out a few weeks before PMT2 became the current release. I mean really, how many PMT1 labeled PCMs has anyone actually seen? Not many over here, that's for sure.

So someone said "PMT1 is okay, but this PMT2 runs fantastic!" and then ran with it for almost 2 years. PMT2 and PMT3 are virtually identical. Someone needs to find that engineer and hard!

[bbbxcursion]

I would really like to meet the engineer and ask him why.....I feel stupid just trying to understand the changes? It's backwords, plain and simple

[cleatus12r]

Originally Posted by Power Hungry

I think the thing that bothers me is that PMT1 was only out a few weeks before PMT2 became the current release. I mean really, how many PMT1 labeled PCMs has anyone actually seen?

I have one....I lucked out on ebay and got it for $75. I have .......other......plans for it I have to take the board out, glue the J3 traces down, and retin the contacts because the previous owner decided to rub a little too much when taking the epoxy off of the terminals. And for whatever reason, there was some arcing going on between two of the terminals when they crossed at some point :omg:. It still works though and chips work fine in it.


As far as the PMT1 and PMT2 (which my truck is originally) differences go, my wife (who is a GREAT test subject for my work because she's brutally honest) says that stock for stock (nothing programmed or in the J3 port), the PMT1 feels stronger than the PMT2....perceivably different. Why? Who knows? I don't feel a difference but she knows when I've changed the PCM out. Don't get me wrong, stock for stock, the truck is still a gutless turd and programming always helps. However, she finds the PMT1 more tolerable if she has to drive without tuning.

The BIGGEST thing I notice is the forced 4-3 shift and TCC strategy. Neither my wife or I ever floorboard the truck so I don't care about WOT lockup...but the 4-3 shift (and subsequent TCC unlock/lock strategy) seals the deal for me...the more responsive APP does it for her.

[Power Hungry]

I agree with both you and the wife. The PMT1 always felt stronger to me, even if only a a little bit. Of course, that may be entire because of the transmission strategy better handling the power from the engine and putting it to the ground.

The reason we went to PMT1 was specifically because of the shift strategies, especially the 4-3 and T/C shifts. This is also the reason we created the VDH/PMT, MNM/PMT, and XLE/PMT hybrid files. They just shift so much better than the original strategies.

In the end, it's whatever makes you happy.

[cleatus12r]

Don't get me started on those lovely strategies that won't even lock the torque converter in 2nd or 3rd gear no matter the load then immediately lock it when the 3-4 shift occurs. Those will make you wonder what the :censored3: those programmers were smoking :1moon: when they came up with that :censored3:.

[Big Bore]

I am having major problems with the PMT1 strategy here in the CO mountains. Downshifting requires way too much pedal at way too low of speeds, causing lag, smoke, and then sudden acceleration when it does downshift. I would go so far as to say I hate it. It does not keep the truck in the powerband, instead it is constantly lugging around. So does the Minotaur software allow shift points to be adjusted using RPM instead of road speed?