Im a newbie to tuning - Page 2

444smoker · #11 Thu, February 26th, 2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cleatus12r

A resounding YES!!

NAW4 SUCKS. TDE1 is the one you're going to want. So, regardless of who your chip comes from, order TDE1. Also tell the operator that you want a 3-4 shift at 41-43 MPH...not 10.

Seriously ha ha!! I hate that in my stock tune it shifts into 3rd and lock the TQ right at the same time, who ever thought of that needs a slap in the face.

Within the next week or two im going to be ordering the minotaur software package here from Bill and am going to start working on it myself. So i will let him know (Im sure he already knows without me telling him) to go for the TDE1 code.

I know the Minotaur software is pretty new but it seems to be getting popular and i think it is going to get really popular IMO! But how willing and open is everybody to share data and email files back and forth with each other? I personally would share any bit if info or files i create with anybody, But thats just me, I was just curious if everybody else viewed it the same way or if you all keep to yourself with files and data.

Robert

***cleatus12r*** · #12 Fri, February 27th, 2009, 09:25 AM

I've sent out a lot of files from my Sniper tuning. I will share whatever I have really....it's not that big of deal to me. I don't have any competition in this area (yet) so I will give you any files I have.

On a side note, I don't mess with any timing tables much (meaning very little changes) so there are always going to be gains (to a certain extent) if I give you a few files and you make a few changes to them. I'm afraid of death rattle.

***cleatus12r*** · #13 Fri, February 27th, 2009, 09:33 AM

Here's a screenshot of my most popular "Daily Driver" setup for TDE1. The black lines are stock. The blue are modified. The top graph is 3-4 shift speed while the lower is 3rd gear TC lock.

444smoker · #14 Fri, February 27th, 2009, 07:31 PM

thats awsome, as im sure you can see im pretty heavily modified and am somewhat shooting for around the 600hp mark but i want to tune that in fairly realiably so im sure i have alot of work ahead of me.

Robert

***cleatus12r*** · #15 Fri, February 27th, 2009, 07:40 PM

Really, TDE1 by itself (factory flash) isn't much better than NAW4 as far as actual shift points go. However, the glow plug control and torque converter lockup strategies are much better. You probably notice that your TC unlocks as soon as you lift your right foot.....TDE1 will not unlock until you tap the brake. Unfortunately, that's as good as it gets with the OBS PCMs.

soutthpaw · #16 Fri, April 3rd, 2009, 12:45 AM

Well It seems my Excursion has the EBM3 code and according to Bill's Chart at Dieselstop it says the folllowing
2001 EBM3 1L119Y0B11 DPC-452 1C3F-XD 7.3L EXCURSION DIESEL - AUTOMATIC 50S VRAA7Y6

I am not sure what to make of this info so if anyone wants to enlighten me that would be great. Is this a good PCM or do I need to find a better option (truck in sig).. what will or won't work for stock files
I'm also waiting for a reply from Bill, hopefully this weekend so I can get the Minotaur software running and chip installed

I think I need the MDF or RTD files still... I don't see any way to get any of the graphs to show with all the paramaters so I guess I am not quite 100% setup yet...

Thanks
DJ

soutthpaw · #17 Fri, April 3rd, 2009, 12:57 AM

Ok I found 1 MDF file it is CDAN4.mdf and appears to be for a Gas vehicle as it has a bunch of spark stuff... Haven't found the Sparks plugs on my PSD yet

I do see all the graphs, maps etc now

also was able to load the binary for my PCM but not sure what to do next.. So guess I do still need the 7.3 MDF files.

at least now I can play with the software a bit...

roosterdiesel · #18 Sat, April 4th, 2009, 08:03 PM

With out your MDF you can't tune anyting for your Ex. The mustang file will allow you to play with rotating maps and such but the tables in the PSD will be alot different.

***cleatus12r*** · #19 Sun, April 5th, 2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by soutthpaw

Well It seems my Excursion has the EBM3 code and according to Bill's Chart at Dieselstop it says the folllowing
2001 EBM3 1L119Y0B11 DPC-452 1C3F-XD 7.3L EXCURSION DIESEL - AUTOMATIC 50S VRAA7Y6

I am not sure what to make of this info so if anyone wants to enlighten me that would be great.

EBM3 is the "box code". DPC-452 is your PCM hardware code. 50S simply means it's legal for a California calibration (49S would mean NOT California). VRAA7Y6 is the "hex code". VRAA7 is the MDF you will need to tune it.

Is this a good PCM or do I need to find a better option (truck in sig).. what will or won't work for stock files.

There shouldn't be an issue with the PCM code you have. I don't have any experience with the Excursion PCMs but I will take a stab at it and say that it's comparable to the truck PMT2/3 box code due to the "VRAA7" hex code.

I'm also waiting for a reply from Bill, hopefully this weekend so I can get the Minotaur software running and chip installed

I think I need the MDF or RTD files still... I don't see any way to get any of the graphs to show with all the paramaters so I guess I am not quite 100% setup yet...

Thanks
DJ

As far as the graphs go, you won't get them in "parameters"...you'll only get numerical data. "Maps" will give you linear and 3D views. "Functions" will give you linear views.

See red text.

soutthpaw · #20 Sun, April 5th, 2009, 02:57 PM

Cody, thanks for that info, I think all the Ex's were 50 state as all Ex's have a GPCM rather than just the GPR setup.. Had to replace my GPCM recently. One nice thing about the GPCM is it tells you exactly which Glow Plugs are bad.. Hence mine was #4 but there was also a problem as kept getting communication signal error code for the GPCM.

Oh and a question about the last part of your response. Does that mean that the Parameters, Maps, and Functions are 3 different ways of displaying the same data?