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SinCityFX4 Fri, March 27th, 2009 12:29 AM
It's friggin wierd. I guess I will have to go back and get more pics but I am curious as to the fx and setup of some of the pieces. Like the piece that comes of right after the hose clamp but before the bellows and goes down.

They moved alot around and not sure why? The main relay box is front and center too..:shrug:

txarsoncop Fri, March 27th, 2009 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 6630)
Txarsoncop - I really had to laugh when I saw your nice shiny CAI in your "camouflaged as a desert" engine bay! :hehe: Kind of like wearing shorts with cowboy boots and a cowboy hat. :smiley_roll1:

But, the intake sure is purty! :thumbs up yellow:

- Jack
That was for instructional purposes of course. Had everything been all nice and shiny there wouldn't have been enough contrast to highlight the changes.

Sheesh, don't you people know anything! slams door......


:cheesy smile: :howdy:

Jackpine Fri, March 27th, 2009 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by txarsoncop (Post 6676)
That was for instructional purposes of course. Had everything been all nice and shiny there wouldn't have been enough contrast to highlight the changes.

Sheesh, don't you people know anything! slams door......


:cheesy smile: :howdy:
Of course, :doh: stupid of me! I can be Sooo dense, sometimes! :shrug:

Thanks for being so "tactful" in your explanation! :smiley_roll1:

- Jack

SubiGT Sat, March 28th, 2009 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Hungry (Post 2533)
Again, when I get questions about leaving the end of the tube open, I always end up going back to the 60's & 70's cars that had air cleaners with the snorkel that barely made it past the valve covers.

From a performance aspect, cooler air is always more desirable than warmer air. Although, like Jack, I wonder just how much warmer the air really is getting in the intake tube when blasting along at 70 MPH. This would be an easy thing to validate since the programmers have ACT in the PIDS. If it was less than 10º difference, I'd wonder just how necessary it really is to complete the tube connection to the fender.

As for CAIs, there's no question they're drawing some amount of warm air from under the hood. Again, a quick check of the ACT before and after installing will give you the final word.
I have the OEM airtube open. I also just got my Gryphon. The ACT(PID) and OAT in the factory gauge cluster were 8deg split all day today. 54(OAT) was 62(ACT). The ACT would climb when sitting, but would quickly drop to the 8deg difference when moving.

I am going to get a 12" section of black ABS, but I really don't expect to see the ACT ever reach the OAT.

AgentOrange Tue, March 31st, 2009 09:50 PM
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Sawzall really effed up part of the tubing, the guard scratched it up some... ach well. Maybe some other day I'll work on cleaning that up. Fixing that will mean smoothing the whole thing though.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that hates those baffles!


I had the same problem with scratches from my jig saw when I cut mine. Cutting it from the bottom side would have hidden scratches...oh well, live and learn.

It turned out great, good job!

Eventually, I want to get rid of the caps and smooth the openings with some type of filler...just haven't figured out what to use yet.

txarsoncop Wed, April 1st, 2009 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AgentOrange (Post 6999)
Eventually, I want to get rid of the caps and smooth the openings with some type of filler...just haven't figured out what to use yet.
I thought the same thing! I could get my hands inside to all three openings and I thought about taping wax paper to the inside and trying to use the epoxy to seal up the holes...

But then I figured I couldn't match the texture of the intake tube and it would probably need some matrix like a fiberglass cloth or redneck it with screen cloth to help support it; at least while it was drying.

So I got lazy, but I think it's the best possible result w/o doing a LOT of work.

jimmyv13 Sun, April 19th, 2009 07:14 PM
Anyone think it's worth it to use an aftermarket drop in filter with this set up?

Jackpine Sun, April 19th, 2009 08:28 PM
I entered this post a while back: http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...12&postcount=2 No one challenged me on it (which doesn't make it true, but it's my feelings on the subject).

I honestly don't see what a "super" filter does for you after 100 miles (except cost more than the OEM brand). Now a cheap knockoff can be a problem - for instance what would happen if the cheap one developed a hole in use?

Again, I'm quite open to having my opinion changed - all I need is a good counter-argument.

- Jack

txarsoncop Mon, April 20th, 2009 06:56 PM
To chop or not to chop?
 
Ok, for those of us who gleefully cut off our Helmholtz resonators (learn something new every day)...

What do the more learned among you think about this information?

Helmholtz resonators :twitch: Caution: MUCH geek-speak here!
Although this dumb firefighter was able to get the gist of it.
  • They dampen resonance... Duh.
  • They make the intake air act "springy" so it fills the combustion chamber more effectively giving us better combustion.

Hmmm, not so sure whipping out that SawZall was such a great idea after all...

Do we need to try to get someone to flow bench or dyno the with and without resonators versions to see if there's a real difference? Seems to me that would be the only answer. Dyno both versions on the same truck and see what the results are.

jimmyv13 Tue, April 21st, 2009 09:12 AM
If they are so beneficial, why don't aftermarket CAI's have them?


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