The shudder like problem is like pulsating ,kind of like driving over those lines in the side of the road to warn you that you are going off . Its starting to do it more often now i noticed it when i went out last night but it was very suddle. Thanks for the info and letting bill know the problem. its nice to see how quick the responces are on here it would be nice if the rest of my day was like that . thanks again Shawn:thumbs up yellow:

OK - It's kind of hard to imagine without having experienced it. I am sure Bill knows what to do about it if he can just find a free moment.

- Jack

If it seems as if its getting worse put it back to stock programming. See if the shudder happens then also.
May want to try and give them a call also leave them a voice mail if necessary.

Lars