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907DAVE Fri, September 9th, 2011 03:22 PM

Cody, can you verify that the Low Boost Fuel map acts as a limiter and not as a delay?

I have not been very successful when trying to control fueling with this map.

cleatus12r Sat, September 10th, 2011 09:22 AM

I wrote up a HUGE story on that yesterday evening, Dave, but when I hit "post quick reply" a database error showed up and ruined my night.

I'll retype it at some point today for you.

Have any luck with those normalizers yet? :D

907DAVE Sat, September 10th, 2011 11:13 PM

Not yet, been on the road since Friday evening. Plan to hit it hard early
next week.

ChrisCNC Mon, September 12th, 2011 11:57 AM

Got the boost fooler installed, the Overboost Annihilator is preset to 22-23 psi.

What are your reasons, Cody, for saying these are a good idea? I would think at the very least, it is protecting the MAP sensor from pressures greater than for which it was designed.

I was surprised at how small the sensor is, for curiosity sake, I'd be interested to know if this is a MEMs sensor, can't find any information about it one way or the other. Doesn't matter I guess.

Does anyone know about the difference between the MAP PID on the Gryphon versus the Turbo Boost PID? Are both of these coming from the MAP sensor? If so, then is one value inferred from the other?

cleatus12r Mon, September 12th, 2011 02:34 PM

I never said they were a good idea. They are a fix (work well for it, too) for overboost codes and defueling. That's it. People have been sending 40+ PSI of boost to the MAP sensors for years without problems.

If you think about the terminology.....
MAP Manifold ABSOLUTE Pressure will be way different than Turbo Boost GAUGE pressure......by about 14.5 PSI (or whatever the barometric correction is).

ChrisCNC Mon, September 12th, 2011 03:24 PM

Thanks Cody,

That is why kinda I figured one must be inferred from the other if both PIDs were coming from the MAP sensor. I'd assume that the MAP PID is the actual converted signal coming from the MAP sensor and the Boost value is simply this value less the barometric pressure...or there abouts.

-Kevin

cleatus12r Tue, September 13th, 2011 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 907DAVE (Post 51272)
Cody, can you verify that the Low Boost Fuel map acts as a limiter and not as a delay?

I have not been very successful when trying to control fueling with this map.

I'll get some datalogs when I go to town today. I decided that typing something out and hoping that it makes sense would be inferior to actually SHOWING what's going on there.

Jeremiah25 Fri, September 30th, 2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj45lc (Post 51229)
All I know is there is no defueling with the tunes so I believe the OA is a waste of $$

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleatus12r (Post 51313)
I never said they were a good idea. They are a fix (work well for it, too) for overboost codes and defueling. That's it. People have been sending 40+ PSI of boost to the MAP sensors for years without problems.

I would like some clarification after reading these two statements. Will the truck defuel, while using PHP tunes, if the map sensor sees more than 23 psi?

I have a Gryphon CS coming with 40, 80, 100, 120, and 140 hp tunes and would like to get the most out of them.

cj45lc Fri, September 30th, 2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah25 (Post 51753)
I would like some clarification after reading these two statements. Will the truck defuel, while using PHP tunes, if the map sensor sees more than 23 psi?

I have a Gryphon CS coming with 40, 80, 100, 120, and 140 hp tunes and would like to get the most out of them.

I'll just say this, my boost gauge has been to 28-30 a few times & the truck is still pulling hard when this happens

907DAVE Fri, September 30th, 2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleatus12r (Post 51349)
I'll get some datalogs when I go to town today. I decided that typing something out and hoping that it makes sense would be inferior to actually SHOWING what's going on there.

Any luck with this?


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