I dont know what Corey has to say, but you could always sell it to someone with an 04-08 F-150. worst case scenario of course :hmmm:

I thought about that, but it had 3 custom tunes that Bill had written specifically for that truck. Is there a way to restore it to the original "canned" Gryphon tunes? I think that's the only way I'll be able to sell it. It is unlocked (original truck was returned to stock before I pulled the Gryphon out.

Yes, you can certainly restore it to the canned tune status. All you have to do is connect it to Pegasus, and click on [Updates]->[Gryphon Updated Manager] and then let it install BOTH firmware and calibration updates. The calibration updates will restore the canned tunes.

Your old custom tunes would not have worked on a newer truck anyway - Bill would have to totally re-write them, even if your programmer was still able to be used.

You can blame Edge for this if you'd like. They simply do not want custom tunes put onto a non CS/CTS unit for 09+ trucks.

I DO think you'll be able to sell your Gryphon pretty quickly though. And, it's a good excuse to get a CS or CTS! (I decided to get one for my truck and I still have the old Gryphon too.) You can tell Bill you want your new tunes to "feel" like the older ones, if you liked them. He can probably use that information to good advantage.

- Jack

Thanks JackandJanet. I knew the custom tunes for the old truck wouldn't have worked. I was hoping to only have to pay for 3 new custom tunes and not a new programmer. I am sure this was a busine$$ decision on the part of edge not to allow older programmers to be reprogrammed and I don't blame Bill at all. I'm sure he's aware of the hardware capabilities, but if Edge says "no" he is probably bound by contract to comply. I'll see if I can figure this pegasus thing out and I guess its going to ebay. :sigh:

I do like the new CS model, but really didn't want to put out the extra funds at this time.

I understand your point completely and you are 100% correct in your analysis. It's very obvious that Edge is trying to quietly phase out the older style programmers in favor of the new ones and yes, from a business standpoint, it makes sense to market a single platform that "does everything".

Still, like you, I wish they had not closed the older units down so "firmly". In my case, if I ever sell my truck, the old Gryphon will go with it.

- Jack

Yeah, Jack, my gryphon would have gone with my truck too, if I'd known. If I were in Edge's shoes, with this tough economy, I'd do the same thing, probably. It only makes sense to lock out old products in order that customers have to upgrade the hardware when we upgrade our trucks. I'm sure they've done the math and figured it's a good financial business move overall from their perspective, but just another example of a little guy consumer - trying to get by - getting passed over. I don't know how many sales for new CS and CTS would be removed by upgrading the older ones that are out there, but they must have deemed it to be signifigant. From a business standpoint I get it. From the standpoint of one of a few of us that held onto our Gryphons, it does suck though.

Guess I'll be gettin a new CS from PHP when I can sell my Gryphon.

Regards,
Darin